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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000441.txt from 2010/11

From: corvo di bassetto <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:46:51 -0500

Sarah, =

your post was headed "Thank you Arthur".
What exactly did you answer me? That disliking anachronistic show-people is=
sexist? But I don't appreciate any of the people of whom you sent you-tube=
links as examples, exactly for the same reason. Why not quote Bruno Walter=
, Ren=E9 Leibowitz, Paul Zukofsky or Clara Haskil as examples for discrete =
and adequate movements? =

Most importantly though, exaggerated movements and other distracting manner=
isms are ruled out by various 18th and 19th cent clarinet/ other instrument=
al tutors. It is therefore simply wrong to perform music of that period in =
that way. Like playing wrong notes or the kind of "espressivo" crescendi To=
ny mentioned. Or using a bulky, tin covered, dreadnought clarinet in wrong =
pitch. =

I don't think we can afford fooling around, music is too serious. That appl=
ies to all ages and sexes. Whether or not Meyer blended with the Berlin Phi=
lharmonics is not for us to judge. I for one wasn't there. =

Best =


Am 26.11.2010 um 17:36 schrieb sarah elbaz:

> My post was an answer to Danyel.
> =

> And Sabine was judged by different standard- she had to leave Berlin Phil=
. only because she was a women and for no other reason.
> =

> Sarah
> =

> =

>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: Martin Baxter <>
>> To: The Klarinet Mailing List <>
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
>> Sent: 26 Nov '10 16:02
>> =

>> =

>> On 26 Nov 2010, at 09:48, sarah elbaz wrote:
>> =

>> Thank you Arthur,
>> Sabine Meyer moves , and her movements are musical and convincing. =

>> She is also a very lucky women , not only because of her talent and succ=
ess- but also because
>> she gets wonderful support from her husband Reiner Wehle and her brother=
Wolfgang Meyer. Thank to both of them
>> she can survive the unbelievable sexism around her. =

>> Sarah
>> Sarah
>> I agree that she is a very lucky woman; I just don't see why you think t=
his should be considered when commenting on her playing.
>> I also said that players should video themselves and ask whether their m=
ovements were distractions from the performance or not. I did NOT say that =
everyone (or indeed anyone) should follow my likes and dislikes; I merely s=
aid that they should know the effect of what they are doing. Where is the s=
exism in that? Indeed the only sexism I can find in this thread is yours wh=
en you imply that women players should be judged by a different standard. T=
he women players with whom I have been privileged to play would be most ins=
ulted by that.
>> Martin
>>> =

>> =

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