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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000134.txt from 2008/10

From: Martin Baxter <martinbaxter@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Nintendo and the clarinet
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:12:40 -0400

Surely te Hurdy Gurdy required in the Trio of Mozart's "Posthorn"
Serenade has to be played; it surely wasn't for a purely mechanical
instrument.
Martin

On 22 Oct 2008, at 18:37, Gary Van Cott wrote:

> Other instruments called hurdy gurdies
>
> In the eighteenth century the term hurdy gurdy was also applied to a
> small, portable "barrel organ" (a cranked box instrument with a number
> of organ pipes, a bellows and a barrel with pins that rotated and
> programmed the tunes) that was frequently played by poor buskers
> (street
> musicians). Barrel organs require only the turning of the crank,
> and the
> music is played automatically by pinned barrels, perforated paper
> rolls,
> and more recently by electronic modules.
>
> This confusion over what the name hurdy gurdy means is particular to
> English, although similar confusion over other terms for the
> instrument
> occurs in German and Hungarian due to unfamiliarity with the hurdy
> gurdy. The French call the barrel organ the Orgue de Barbarie
> ("Barbary
> organ"), and the Germans Drehorgel ("turned organ"), instead of
> Drehleier ("turning lyre").
>
> Gary
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> Lora Crighton wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tim Roberts <timr@-----.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:14:43 -0400, "Lora Crighton"
>>> <lcrighton@-----.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Tim Roberts <timr@-----.com> wrote
>>>>>> So, this game requires roughly the same level of creativity as
>>>>>> playing a
>>>>>> player piano or a hurdy-gurdy.
>>>> Why are you insulting hurdy-gurdy players?
>>> Because "hurdy gurdy" means something different in American pop
>>> culture
>>> than it does to aficionados. My apologies to the true "wheeled
>>> violin"
>>> players of the world.
>>>
>>
>> What is the pop culture meaning?
>>
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