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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000104.txt from 2008/10

From: "Dan Leeson" <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Karl Leister K.622
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:49:50 -0400

Lelia, I know of hypothesis that Mozart used (or "reused") any operatic
melody in his clarinet concerto.

Is it possible that you are thinking of his use of a tenor aria in Cosi fan
tutte (Ah lo veggio quel anima bella) which also has been suggested to have
been the basis for an unfinished quintet for clarinet and strings, and may
even have been his first thoughts on the last movement of K. 581?

Dan Leeson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lelia Loban" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:59 AM
Subject: [kl] Karl Leister K.622

> Tony and Dan, thank you for the additional insights.
> Tony Pay wrote,
>>What is the genesis of bars 108/109/110? Where did Mozart get them from?
>>OK, I know they occur in the opening Tutti. But where did he get them
>>when they appear THERE (bars 20/21/22)?
> Oh rats. That question has turned the passage into an earworm that's
> going to drive me crazy until someone answers the question. I think
> Mozart borrowed the melody line there from one of his own operas. I can't
> place it, but I'm hearing the melody in my head as a fairly thin
> orchestral accompaniment (a few stringed instruments, not the whole gang)
> for a duet between a soprano and a tenor where, right after that passage,
> the full orchestra and the chorus join in. Or I could be totally wrong
> and I should probably just shut up now....
> Lelia Loban
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