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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000214.txt from 2005/07

From: "David Glenn" <>
Subj: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[kl]_Re:_reed-up_embouchure_and_tonguing?=
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:07:53 -0400

> --- Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: (Ormondtoby Montoya)
> An:
> Betreff: Re: [kl] Re: reed-up embouchure and tonguing
> Datum: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:00:07 -0700
> David Glenn wrote:
> > By the way, did anybody else try it? Maybe
> > it's something not everybody can do like
> > being able to roll the tongue? Maybe that's
> > why Stubbins said that?
> David, I tried it when Vann first raised the question.
> I was tempted to post something with which other people have disagreed
> in the past, but I kept it to myself. Now, however, in the spirit of
> questioning authority... and also because I'm tired of doing chores
> right now :-( and I welcome a diversion:
> I doubt that I could ever learn to tongue "reed-up" smoothly enough to
> be 'musical', but I also think that tonguing 'reed-up' does not serve
> the same purpose as 'reed-down'.
> This is because it seems necessary (in my own mouth and with my own
> tongue, at least) to block the air flow if my tongue starts at the
> bottom of my mouth and climbs up across the open space between reed and
> mouthpiece --- whereas stopping the air flow is not absolutely necessary
> when tonguing 'reed-down'. 'Reed-down' allows you to touch the reed
> just enough with your tongue to stop the reed's vibration without
> necessarily shutting off the air flow (if it happens that you want this
> effect). Hence my opinion is that the two forms of tonguing would be
> fundamentally different.
> And therefore I think that Vann's original question is an interesting
> one.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
That's a good point. The whole repertoire of tonging styles seems to be
different with the reed up. I think one could maybe learn something about
the articulation of the time (of Mozart) by experimenting with it. We may
have to part with tonguing patterns which we've come to know and love and
which have been taught to us by "legendary" teachers but it might be a
fascinating route to follow.

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