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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000327.txt from 2005/05

From: Simeon Loring <sloring1@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Wagner!
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:29:33 -0400

I remember the discussion in college as to what makes a work a
classic. The best answer we came up with was the test of time one.
If enough people over many generations approved of it, then that was
some kind of a statement of worth.
On May 24, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Ormondtoby Montoya wrote:

> Matthew Lloyd wrote:
>
>
>> There is plenty to demonstrate technical
>> ability. But that's not what makes Mozart
>> supreme over all artists. I guess it is what
>> we'd think of an article of faith.
>>
>
> Perhaps "includes specific details" is a better basis for evaluating a
> criticism than "factual" is.
>
>
>
> For example, you can praise a composer for emphasizing (or not
> emphasizing) tonicity. However, while it may be a 'fact' that a
> certain composer did (or did not) do so, it remains a value judgement
> whether tonicity makes 'better music' or 'worse music' or neither.
>
> Ultimately any musical criticism can be condemned as "opinion" or
> 'personal preference'.
>
> Perhaps the only "fact" about a particular piece of music is how many
> people did (or did not) state that they preferred it. In this sense,
> it was a "factual" statement to say that many people enjoy "Ride of
> the
> Valkyrie". Whether Valkyrie is also good music is based on
> opinion and
> preference, not on 'fact'.
>
>
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