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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000342.txt from 2005/04

From: "Dan Leeson" <>
Subj: RE: [kl] Dan's non-Partita
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:47:06 -0400

Well for one thing no Partita has two minuets surrounding the slow movement.
That was a feature of the serenade, though there are serenades with only one
minuet. Notice how the E-flat and c minor wind serenades as well as the
Gran Partitta all have the minuet pair surrounding the slow movement. No
partita has that structure.

Another factor is the number of movements. Partitas were generally limited
to four movements, very few have five, and none have six or more.

The partita is much more a baroque form than a classical one. If I remember
correctly, the last true partita ws written about 1770.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Pay []
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: [kl] Dan's non-Partita

So, what's the evidence that K361 *isn't* a Partita, Dan? In other words,
what *is* a Partita, according to you?

"...the term is about as stupid as one can use (and in any spelling) because
K. 361 is NOT a Partita/Partitta. The term implies a specific form and the
serenade does not adhere to that form. In fact, Mozart never wrote a
Partita/Partitta in his life. Such a term implies a precise quantity and
order of movement types. Therefore, any form of that word should not be
as a subtitle."

So what is the form, and what are the precise quantities and orders of
movement types?

I think you should tell us, because we really want to know.

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