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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000279.txt from 2005/04

From: Georg K=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=hner <520045578938-0001@-----.de>
Subj: Re: [kl] Test results (S. Mayer)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:54:44 -0400

Thank You!

German clarinet players are not allowed to speak in this way about S. Mayer
:-(

BTW there some techical problems in the Mozart Conerto oops!

Regards Georg (from Germany)

Am 16.04.2005 12:48 Uhr schrieb "danyel" unter <rab@-----.de>:

> Hi,
> let me explain, the somewhat bitter undertone in my attitude towards S.
> Mayer is due to fact that living in Germany I have been exposed to her
> playing for many years. She has hold a monopoly on certain pieces for qui=
te
> a while on German stages and record shelves. All the gorgeous recordings
> made by Stalder, Michallick, the Viennese, are out of print (I bought
> several scratched post-war records from collectors all over the world in
> order to hear Brahms or Mendelssohn played properly), yet hers are force-=
fed
> down our throats. However, I found her sound unbearably sterile, like the
> clarinet register of a Casio organ, her playing uninspired, meek and dull=
.
> She drags along at unlikely tempi and her whole person is lacking the spa=
rk
> and originality that seems to have inspired composers like Mozart, Weber,
> Mendelssohn or Brahms in players like Stadler, the Baermann's and M=FChlfel=
d.
> We need a different breed of people to play those pieces. I can't take th=
e
> boredom any longer. No doubt she is technically quite competent, but so
> what?
> Best wishes,
> danyel
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ormondtoby Montoya" <ormo2ndtoby@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Test results
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>> Danyel wrote:
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>>> S. Mayer and her ilk, no matter whether they
>>> play Wurlitzer or Jinbao, cold Buffet or on a
>>> comb. Mayer might be German and she sure
>>> plays Oehler, but aesthetically she is
>>> Wasteland.
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>> First of all, for me, your description of Sabine Mayer labels everything
>> else in your post as irrelevant to me. She need not be your favorite
>> performer, but her music does not justify the description you have used
>> above.
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>> Secondly, this discussion about Dan's experiment has caused some hard
>> feelings.
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>> Imo, all of us need to remember that while we may have preferred (as I
>> would have) an experimental design with fewer variables, the fact
>> remains that those people who tried to identify nationalities despite
>> the other variables were unable to do so.
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>> This shows only one thing: that the respondents could not distinguish
>> nationality regardless of the other variables.
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>> Dan insisted --- quite clearly and directly --- that this was all that
>> he intended to test. When I asked Dan (see the Klarinet archives) what
>> he was going to do about differences in sound systems, recording
>> techniques and so forth, his reply was (not verbatim) "I don't intend to
>> do anything."
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>> The fact that Dan's particular interest doesn't match mine (or yours or
>> anyone else's) is worth discussing --- which we have done --- but it
>> does not justify personal anger or resentment in either direction.
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>> I may disagree with Dan, but then he may disagree with me. Should
>> either of us harbor a grudge or get nasty about it?
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>> No.
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>> Dan proved one particular statement, and if it wasn't a statement that
>> interests you, so be it.
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>> If you care enough to do a different experiment yourself, then do so.
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