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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000244.txt from 2005/04

From: Joseph Wakeling <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Francaix
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:15:02 -0400

Tony Pay wrote:

> By the way, Dan, how do the results look if you break them down
> according to my suggestion? namely, did a significant number of people
> think that one particular person was German, did a significant number
> of people think that another particular person was French, did a
> significant number of people think that another particular person was
> English, and so on, regardless of whether or not any of them actually
> were?

The other question that needs to be asked is: is there any correlation
between each individual's answers and the nationality of the player?
For example, if someone states "German" for more American clarinettists
than would be expected at random, that might suggest there is something
they are picking up on. Someone else might consistently state "French"
in the same case. Yet the fact that both sets of answers were
internally consistent would imply that both responders were reliably
identifying some features of these players' performances.

Then, there are other factors: for example, are responders achieving
better-than-random distinction between Oehler-system and Boehm-system
instruments, regardless of specific nationality?

Dan's results so far have shown that it is reasonable to harbour doubts
about whether there exist identifiably different national playing
characters, but the data analysis so far is too little and too primitive
to be able to say a clear Yes or No.

(... This quite aside from the "scientific-ness" of the given test;
which is little, given the complete lack of controls and of alternative
hypotheses for how responders might distinguish between sounds.)

-- Joe

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