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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000235.txt from 2005/04

From: Roger Hewitt <>
Subj: Re: [kl] completely OT, but not unimportant: pronunciation
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:12:45 -0400


In England the beer mug stein is pronounced "shtine" by everybody I
know, and although I do not know German, I learnt how to pronounce
German for musical use (names of people and names of pieces - words
like lieder and Eine Kleine...); the rule was for ie or ei forget the
first letter of the pair and pronounce the second one so Reen Stine is
how I would automatically have pronounced your name (although possibly
I don't know for certain whether the rule I learnt is 100% correct, but
it always worked for me!

Roger H

--- rien stein <> wrote:
> Off list several people recently asked me how to pronounce my name.
> In the
> past some people consequently spelled it in a wrong way, but during
> my stay
> in Atlanta, Ga (1968), I got used to it. It is NOT pronounced like
> Ry-un
> Steene, although I am well aware in England (and maybe also in the
> USA?) a
> "stein", pronounced "steene" is a beer mug. In Germany it is a stone.
> My name is spelled Rien Stein, "Rien" originating from the Latin word
> "Marinus", pronounced "mahreenous", sailor. It was my grandfather's
> name.
> Usually people knowing me ten minutes introduced me to other people
> like
> "Rine Steene".
> That is a reversal of the sounds: it should be something like
> "Reene Stine",
> where the "ee" is pronounced a lot opener (and thus shorter) than the
> American transcription above suggests, and for those knowing German
> "Stein"
> is pronounced more or less the German way, but without the "j"-sound
> between
> the s and the t.
> But if you can approximate it I am already happy.
> Play today the most beautiful piece you like, even if it is
> sentimentally,
> and enjoy yourself.
> Rien
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