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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000382.txt from 2004/12

From: "dnleeson" <>
Subj: RE: [kl] Klocker
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:04:51 -0500

There are really two issues involved in this question, the first
of which cannot be answered on the basis of taste.

Does Klocker execute a cadenza at the place(s) indicated by the
composer? That's easy enough to figure out. A cadenza is called
for by the intersection of two events: (1) there must a fermata
indicating a pause of indefinite duration while the cadenza is
executed; (2) the underlying chord structure must be a tonic
chord in the second inversion; i.e., with the fifth in the bass.
So if the composer requests five cadenzas in the manner just
described and Klocker creates them at the five places indicated,
the answer to your question is "No." In fact one could argue that
if he did only four cadenzas he is underachieving rather than

But if the fermata occurs and the underlying chord structure is
not a tonic chord in the second inversion (but is instead a
dominant seventh chord), and Klocker interprets this as if it
were a request for a cadenza (instead of a request for an
Eingang, or lead in), then the answer to your question is "Yes."
But somehow, I don't Klocker misundstands the situation, so that
gives rise to the second of the two issues involved.

Let's assume that he is putting cadenzas in where they have been
called for. Then we leave the safe world of classical form and
enter the world of subjective opinion; i.e., are his cadenzas
intelligent?, do they do what they are supposed to do?; is the
length of each cadenza adequate and neither too long nor too
short?; has he created a cadenzas whose purpose it is to show
only his technical skill and command of the instrument?; blah,
blah, blah?

As for answering this second issue, I can't respond unless I
heard him do two performances of the same work. That statement is
made seriously. If two performances had him executing the same
cadenzas again, that is one perspective to be discussed. If the
cadenzas change from performance to performance, that is another

So which question are you asking?

Why do you always answer a question with a question?

Who always answers a question with a question?

Dan Leeson

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred []
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:45 PM
Subject: [kl] Klocker

Does anyone feel that Dieter Klocker cadenzas everything to
death? Is this
really appropriate?


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