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Subj: Re: [kl] Playing scales three octaves up
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:40:11 -0500

A 14 year old girl should not be tortured with playing altissimo. If she
would be recquired to play all scales in three octaves, she would have to
play D: d'-d''-d'''-d'''' which I couldn't, with my sublime horn, excellent
mouthpiece, fine reeds and 20 years of practice (I never put much exercise
in the altissimo above g''' for the reasons below). The ease and beauty of
altissimo notes (above c''') depends very much on the kind and quality of
reeds, mouthpiece, instrument and player. Reeds that facilitate those high
notes spoil the timbre, intonation and articulation of the other registers.
Playing that high on a decent, strong reed on a proper mouthpiece on a real
clarinet that does have a chalumeau (rather than putting all the energy in
the tweeky high partials) is very tough and only recommended after the
controll over the lower registers is very well developed, which, with most
clarinettists, never happens to the desired degree anyway. Just look at the
classic repertoire: except for the Spohr concerti you will hardly ever need
the altissimo, especially above g'''.
Best wishes,

----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Gardner
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 5:57 AM
Subject: RE: [kl] Playing scales three octaves up

Three octave scales can be a pain initially, especially when a student does
not have a ton of experience up there. When I learned them, I took one
scale at a time, starting with the lowest one, E, and incorporated the third
octave of that scale into my warmup. Once that scale was very comfortable,
I moved to the next. After a while, I had them all. My warmup consists of,
among other things, every major and harmonic and melodic minor scale three
octaves at several different tempos. Practicing the third octave gives
daily experience playing in the "dreaded" altissimo register and after a
while, these notes become very comfortable and less "dreaded." Even though
the director is using extrinsic motivation to motivate students to learn the

third octaves, they are beneficial in my opinion (and not just to get a good
chair in auditions).

It is unfortunate that so many band programs rely so heavily on competition.
My high school band was INCREDIBLY competitive in the marching bang scene
and therefore more emphasis is placed on marching as opposed to the
aesthetics and enjoyment of MUSIC, so I understand where you're coming from.
It's a wonder it's still considered music education.

Good luck

Josh Gardner

-----Original Message-----
From: kimi []
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: [kl] Playing scales three octaves up

My daughter is in her four year of band now. Her
skills with the clarinet have become quiet impressive
for one that is just fourteen. She is currently
working on a grade four solo piece that she will be
playing in the spring for competition.

One of the things I have heard her talking about that
has her stressing out is that it seems they have to
try out for seat positions on both the concert and
symphonic band at school. They are just finishing up
marching band and they won A superiors all across the
board. The thing is, she seems to be stressing
because evidently they have to be able to play three
octaves up on some particular scales that the
instructor has told them they'd have to be able to do
to place in a chair position.

Does anyone have any advice or comments on this three
octaves up thing?



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