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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000588.txt from 2004/10

From: Adam Michlin <>
Subj: RE: [kl] Some more thoughts on embouchures
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:27:15 -0400

At 11:30 AM 10/21/2004 -0500, Forest Aten wrote:

> You said you read Benade. You rewrite the paragraph. I already have
>a pretty good understanding regarding this issue. As I've said many
>times..."common sense" is a function of two basic elements. Education and

I have to admit that was a really a backhanded criticism, but it was
uncalled for and I apologize. I also realize now that Ormondtoby and I were
arguing different points, much to the frustration of all involved.

> "Applying pressure" (the right kind) to the reed is very necessary.
>It provides the element of control in this tone generation system. Tony Pay
>wrote extremely well about this very subject this past year. Look in the
>archives or perhaps Tony would point us all to the reference so that we can
>once again enjoy the benefits of both his knowledge and ability to

I will check the archives and get back to you.

>Adam, I didn't like the way your teacher described embouchure on his web
> the way....not such a good reference for younger students trying
>to find their way.

It is a very interesting problem. I know Tony is going to nail me for name
dropping again, but this is the embouchure Joe Allard taught. For decades,
people tried to convince Joe to write a book and he always refused. As I
learn more and more I realize that putting in writing what he taught in
words and actions is an extraordinarily difficult task. I can't really
blame him for not doing so and it really was our loss. It might not even be
possible, but that's never stopped me from trying. This, of course, may be
why I must sign off as:

The Ignorant American,


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