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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000410.txt from 2004/10

From: Tony Pay <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Anticipation
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:09:40 -0400

On 15 Oct, Adam Michlin <> wrote:

> Tony,
> It is common sense. It is not commonly taught (at least in my experience in
> the US).

Well, 'it' may not commonly be taught, but that it is possible follows
immediately from teaching what the tongue/reed relationship in articulation
*has to be*. See:

> Additionally, there is also a very significant school of playing which
> believes you should never use the tongue to stop the air for an attack.

I don't know quite what is meant by that. You don't stop the *air* -- you
stop the vibration of the reed.

> Understanding the technique and its origins can only help to clarify what
> we know from common sense and perhaps allow us to better articulate how and
> why this technique is better. And, honestly, I'm just curious.

If you want to understand how tonguing works, that's one thing. I support

But you won't understand how we found out how tonguing works by starting your
enquiry with who studied with whom, or what people like Bonade had to say.
Guess what, the world wasn't waiting for some legendary American to tell it
how to play the clarinet sensibly.

> My interests are in bridging the gap between what professional musicians
> such as yourself consider "simple" and what the music education world
> (specifically, the K-12 US system) is teaching. Much of what we both take
> for granted is simply unknown to the world of music education, this being a
> very good example.

Good. One step in the right direction is to tell the truth here.

> Anyone who has ever worked in the world of education knows you have to cite
> sources.

No, what you have to cite is reasoned argument. You don't see that Hooke's
law is true by being told that it was Hooke that said it was true. You see
that it's true -- and also, incidentally, how it's *not* true -- by doing
simple experiments with springs and weights.

> Common sense just isn't enough. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just
> the way it is.

What isn't good enough is 'big name' bullshit. You should work against that.

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