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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000242.txt from 2003/06

From: Karl Krelove <karlkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Begin the Beguine
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:24:21 -0400

For what it's worth, I just pulled out an LP re-pressing of the (a?) Shaw
recording and it is, shure 'nough, in concert D. Funny thing is, having
listened as a teenager to another (an RCA 45 RPM EP re-pressing) recording
of it over and over (and playing along by ear), I always thought it was a
half-step lower (concert Db). Obviously, my turntable's speed at the time
was inaccurate. The one I now have has a built in strobe to allow speed
checking (and an adjusting knob to go along with it), so I'm fairly sure
tonight's experiment got an accurate result.

Does anyone out there know how many times Shaw recorded Begin the Beguine
for commercial release? Are we all listening to the same single recording,
or are there several out there? I know, by contrast, that I've heard at
least three different recordings of Goodman and his orchestra playing Sing,
Sing, Sing (including the Carnegie Hall Concert recording).

Karl Krelove

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Casher [mailto:tedcasher@-----.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:46 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Begin the Beguine
>
>
> From: Ted Casher tedcasher@-----.com
>
> The original key of the Artie Shaw record of Begin the Beguine is
> D concert,
> placing the clarinet in the key of E! Nice brilliant key! Some of the
> charts are written in C concert, however.
> I am a clarinet/tenor player in the Boston/Providence/Newport
> area. I have
> played with Dick Johnson---my good friend for many years----who leads the
> present edition of the Artie Shaw Orchestra. As I am his
> trusted friend, I
> do his work when he is on the road, leading the Shaw band. I did
> manage to
> take one road trip, however-----and the chart is in D concert!!!!
> Whatever happened to "come home from school and play along with
> the record?"
> The CD is available, and the FF/REW on the CD player makes playing along
> easier than having to "drop the needle" as we did in the 50s.
> Are you guys
> THAT dependent on written music??? Come, come, now-----whatever
> happened to
> ears?
>
> tedcasher@-----.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Semple" <wsemple@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Begin the Beguine
>
>
> > Right. D is the key I play it in, too. But I listened to an Artie Shaw
> > recording the other night, and could not find the key easily.
> I'll haul it
> > out again soon and see if I can't get a more accurate read on
> what key the
> > recording is in.
> >
> > William T. Semple
> > Office: 202-364-2466
> > Home: 540-364-4823
> > Cell: 540-903-6645
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Hausmann" <bhausmann1@-----.net>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] Begin the Beguine
> >
> >
> > > At 04:50 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >My question is: what key?
> > > >
> > > >The original is written in Concert C, but Artie plays it in something
> > else
> > > >on his recording.I think he drops it down a notch or two.
> >
> > Bill Semple
> >
> > > >
> > > The arrangement we play in the Baytones big band, which is supposed to
> be
> > > the Jerry Gray original, has the clarinet part in written key of D, so
> > > concert C sounds right. It ends on that long altissimo D after the
> > > gliss. The clarinet part is written into the second alto sax part. I
> > > normally play 1st alto, but play second for that one so I get
> to do the
> > > clarinet part.
> > >
> > . Shows what the record companies know about music and taste.
> > >
> > > Bill Hausmann
> > >
> >
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