Klarinet Archive - Posting 000499.txt from 2002/06
From: Blumberg Artists Management <musicartists@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Beethoven "Clarinet" Concerto!!!???
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 09:20:38 -0400
I just bought the Beethoven Concerto CD and found on the back cover that a
guy who I promote (Billionaire Gordon Getty)
funded the recording and made it possible! Was pretty cool.
http://www.mp3.com/guigui is a page with Getty's music on it (there are
Woodwind Quintet pieces there too) . Am making a page with his pianist in a
recital of his music and also there was a Julliard Orchestra performance a
month ago (we are getting their permission) of his works with Guigui
(Clarinetist and Ditson Award winner) conducting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Guy on the Couch" <jnohe@-----.Edu>
Subject: Re: [kl] Beethoven "Clarinet" Concerto!!!???
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Bear Woodson wrote:
> > and settled on buying the David Shifrin, with
> > the Extended-Body Clarinet in A. I've heard it
> > on the radio years ago, but have never owned it
> > before.
> This was my first recording, and still remains my favorite.
> > 1) Just how high does the Clarinet's Written
> > Range go in the MODERN Version of the
> > Mozart Clarinet Concerto?
> Depends on which version you speak of. IIRC, an article and breakdown of
> current publishings of the concerto had been published in The Clarinet
> (ICA's publication) a few years ago, and it listed around 14-17 versions.
> From what I seem to understand, the most widely accepted version is the
> original Breitkopf/Hartel editing by H.Kling, as it was the very first
> edition publicly published in 180X. On the otherhand, the officially
> accepted edition (endorsed by the NMA - the autority on Mozart) is the
> Barenreiter publication.
> I do not own the original B/H, but instead a recent re-editing by the Trio
> di Clarone (I reccomend against it), and the aforementioned Barenreiter.
> The Barenreiter touches an altissimo G; I haven't looked at the B/H Trio
> version in some years, so I can't say.
> > 2) And is the Highest Note in Mozart's
> > ORIGINAL Version of his Clarinet Concerto,
> > the same as it is in the Modern Version? (Is it
> > higher now in the Modern Version?)
> We don't know. We don't have Mozart's original version. We have no
> manuscript whatsover - only a fragment of a concerto in G for basset horn
> he was sketching that matches what he eventually wrote and presented to
> Stadler for basset clarinet in A (or so we assume). Believe me, many of
> us wish we had it - it'd settle a LOT of arguments around here! ^_^
> I will say THIS much, however...I am no Mozart scholar, so you should wait
> until Dan has something to say before you take my remarks seriously. I
> can only draw upon my rather diminuative Mozartian experience: I have
> played the Kegelstatt trio, Li Nozze di Figaro (first part...very fun!),
> and naturally, the Concerto. I have also examined, but not played, the
> quintet as well. It is my observation that his use of altissimo in the
> clarinet is very very very very conservative, and this corrolates with
> what we know of Stadler, who expressed a fondness for lower registers. If
> one applies the conservativeness of the quintet, trio, and the opera to
> the Concerto, then it makes sense that Mozart would also not over utilize
> the top register...at least not in the fashion that Weber and Spohr would
> soon undertake.
> (Anton had a younger brother named Johann...I think...who was technically
> less proficient, but still a strong player. The brothers were often hired
> in pairs in their various posts, and almost always, Johann started the gig
> playing first clarinet, because Anton chose to play second due to his
> love of the lower register...or so I've read in Weston, I think.)
> > (Besides I'm writing my series of Clarinet
> > works now, and would also like to know how
> > high it is safe to write. I'm assuming the Con-
> > cert E, 3 Ledger Lines above the Treble Clef as
> > a safe ceiling, but it wouldn't hurt to write in
> > Ossia Passages.)
> Depends on just how virtuosic you want the work to be.
> > Third Movements, to allow for Cadenzas. He
> > then wrote his own Cadenzas, and hit the HIGH
> > Written C, 5 Ledger Lines above the Treble
> > Clef! I look forward to more educational com-
> > ments, and thank you all in advance.
> Too bad Mozart (from what we are able to discern) didn't intend for any
> cadenzas to be added to the work. (That's not to say he didn't intend for
> improvisation, but simply that he didn't intend for the insertion of
> cadenzas...from what we have in our editions, anyways. But hey, the
> performer makes his/her own decision...many do the same with Weber's
> J. Shouryu Nohe
> Grad Assistant, New Mexico State University
> "I think we have a ghost in our house." - Kaycee Nicole
> "I should probably be playing Buffet." - Steve Moore