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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000074.txt from 2002/06

From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Teaching the 'students' of today
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:02:45 -0400


Good observations. My recent one year appointment to a Texas university
started with a faculty meeting. The 1st topic on the agenda during that
meeting was, "student retention". (it was clear that the administrator meant
at all/any costs) We won't see much relief in Texas. Last year 300 public
school music education jobs went unfilled. (it's a big state) As long as
many school districts have a warm body in the classroom.....administrators
are happy.

F. Aten

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From: <>
Subject: Re: [kl] Teaching the 'students' of today

> In a message dated Tue, 4 Jun 2002 2:47:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
A4ACHESON writes:
> << through it all and just tell them to find another major because they'll
never make it with this one. But how do you
> tell someone something like that? I can't be the one to
> crush somebody directly, I'm too nice to do that>>
> I have stayed out of this thread. Not that I don't have opinions. but
perhaps opinions that are too strong.
> I believe strongly, that schools, and not JUST music schools, graduate far
too many people that are not qualified and will never be qualified in the
field that they, in fact, have a diploma in.
> I have seen students given degrees in music, when in fact, the student was
"tone deaf" and couldn't sight-sing "do-re-re-do-re-re-do" with any degree
of reliability. I have seen school music directors, with well paying jobs,
who follow the students when they conduct, and can't negotiate the "Star
Spangled Banner" without relying on the rhythmic integrity of 11 and 12 year
olds. I have seen choral directos who are great at fancy hand movements, but
can't recognize when the students are singing miserably out of tune or out
of their range. I could go on an on.......
> The kindest thing, and fairest thing, is to kindly counsel someone out of
a profession where the will have to "fake it" for the rest of their lives.
> Basta....
> Walter
> who is...getting down off ANOTHER soapbox
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