| Klarinet Archive - Posting 000847.txt from 2001/05 From: Lacy Schroeder <LacyS@-----.org>Subj: RE: [kl] Performing/non-performing
 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:38:13 -0400
 
 Yes, I completely agree!! I am not too happy about playing all by my
 lonesome, which is why I've challenged myself to get into a music festival
 every summer so that I don't have to go all summer long without having
 anybody to play *with*. I didn't go to one last summer after having gone to
 one the summer before, and felt as if though I "rotted" musically. I don't
 want to do that again! Practicing by oneself is of course essential, since
 you need time to learn the pieces and listen to yourself, but to me it seems
 as a step towards preparing to play with others. Even the people who are
 soloists have other people backing them up, playing in the orchestra (maybe
 with the exception of a pianist playing sonatas or etudes, or any other
 unaccompanied solo for any instrument, but y'all know what I mean), or
 chamber group.
 
 The nice thing is that when I attend a concert, I feel as if I become part
 of the orchestra and everyone in the concert hall, the musicians, the
 conductor, and the audience, become a whole. They're not only playing *for*
 us at that point; it goes much further than that. It's a very spiritual
 thing for me.
 
 What you said about the competitiveness; the glaring across the room and
 such, is sad but true. I remember in high school being threatened and
 enduring psych-out attempts by the soprano clarinet players because I was
 switching from bass cl. to soprano at the next tryout. I remember one in
 particular said that if I bear her, she would make my life hell. That's sad!
 And yes, I ended up beating the pants off of her, and thank God she was a
 senior that year and I didn't have to put up with her for long. But it shows
 to prove that some kids take the competition too far. You do need to have a
 sense of competition, or else there's not much motivation for improvement.
 But these kids who go  to these extremes miss the point of being in music in
 the first place!! I want to be said about me: "Plays well with others." Not
 "Beats the pants off of others."
 
 I'm going to go back to enjoying my fudge brownie. Wow.
 
 Ciao!
 
 Lacy Schroeder
 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Bilwright@-----.net]
 > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:04 PM
 > To: klarinet@-----.org
 > Subject: RE: [kl] Performing/non-performing
 >
 >
 >      <><> Lacy Schroeder wrote:
 > I've always thought that it is much more satisfying to play
 > for living,
 > breathing humans than for the four walls of a practice or band room.
 >
 >
 >
 >      I agree with you, and I hesitate to debate anything while an ad
 > hominem flame war is brewing elsewhere.   Anger can be infectious.
 >
 >      But my point involves the preposition "for".   Playing
 > "with" other
 > people is a different goal than playing "for" other people.
 >
 >       I don't denigrate the "for" aspect of playing music ---
 > I would be
 > devastated if all my CDs disappeared and if I couldn't attend concerts
 > and so forth.   I do become unhappy, however, when musicians
 > lose sight
 > of the "with" aspect of music and when they allow competition
 > and status
 > to become the primary icons --- which does happen sometimes.   'Being
 > best' --- as opposed to 'doing my best' --- is a powerful urge.
 >
 >       Someone will probably post that you can't be a true performer if
 > you don't receive social pleasure from playing with others and if you
 > don't receive physical pleasure from the music itself, and I *do*
 > believe that this *is* true.
 >      It's when the two aspects get out of balance that things
 > go wrong,
 > and it is worst when 'for the audience' changes into 'for me only' ---
 > such as weekly challenges for seats, shame at being second
 > seat, glares
 > across the room and thoughts of bringing a knife to rehearsal
 > (the most
 > extreme example that we've seen on this list since I subscribed).
 >
 >      I take private lessons mostly to learn how to make
 > sounds that make
 > me 'feel' good.   But truthfully, I also look forward to playing with
 > someone else (my teacher) and to chatting about music ---
 > until the day
 > comes when I can walk into a room of other musicians whom
 > I've never met
 > and ask "Can I play with you?" without worrying that I'll
 > mess up their
 > pleasure.
 >
 >      While I have done one student recital, I can't say that
 > it was 100%
 > fun for me.   Nevertheless, when I get a certain piece (that
 > I'm working
 > on now) down cold, I will probably drop a hint to my teacher that I'm
 > willing to recite again....    as a _duet_ _with_ her.
 >
 >
 >
 > Cheers,
 >      Bill
 >
 >
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