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Klarinet Archive - Posting 001015.txt from 2001/02

From: "Lacy, Edwin" <>
Subj: RE: [kl] Landler
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:21:08 -0500

A few days ago I referred in a message to the highly respected =
Walter Kaufmann. Among many other areas, he was an expert in the music =
the classical and romantic periods. I can report what he said in a =
class on
music of the classical era concerning the minuet and L@-----. He =
said that
throughout the late 18th and early 19th centuries, there are two types =
minuet movements that appear. One is the more courtly type, usually =
at a fairly brisk tempo (he didn't mention any metronome markings), and =
more folk-like type, or L@-----.
Unfortunately, Kaufmann is no longer living, so it isn't possible to
reconfirm that now.

The Harvard Brief Dictionary of Music says that it is "an Austrian =
popular about 1800, in rather slow triple time and approximating the =
It was also known as Deutscher Tanz. Mozart (K. 606), Beethoven =
T@-----. =
examples are the third movement of Beethoven's Symphony no. 8 and the =
of the Scherzo in Bruckner's Romantic Symphony, no. 4."

Beyond the listed examples, I think it is up to every musician, when =
dance movements in triple meter from the classical or romantic eras, to
decide for themselves which type is represented and what tempo is

Ed Lacy
Dr. Edwin Lacy, Professor of Music
University of Evansville
1800 Lincoln Avenue
Evansville, IN 47722
telephone (812)479-2252; e-mail:

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