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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000471.txt from 2001/02

From: (William Wright)
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: strange intonation in warm up exercise
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:34:33 -0500

I've promised a couple of times that I won't harp any more on this
point. Well, I'm going to keep my promise. This is *truly* my last
iteration of this utter-ation.

<><><><> I wrote:
But this doesn't affect the point under discussion --- namely, that the
two materials (wall vs. ear/neural tissue) may respond in different ways
to the air's vibration.

<><> Bill Hausmann wrote:
Different ways? Certainly. But whether measured in meters or feet,
electrons or hair movements, the phenomenon MEASURED is still the same.

If two devices (eg.: ear and tuner) pay attention to different
aspects of the same phenomenon, the results will be different.
Different aspects of the same phenomenon produce different perceptions.
That's what I'm saying.

To use technical photography as an example (which I know quite
well), the human eye and the light meter do not measure exactly the same
details of the incoming light, and therefore different corrections to
the meter's reading are necessary depending on the situation.

Same light waves, but different perceptions of what's out there.

Infrared photography is an even more extreme example of this, where
what's 18% gray to the eye may be either burnt-out white "D max" glare
or pitch black "D min" darkness to the film, or anything in between ---
again depending on details that the human 'measuring device' doesn't

The goal, of course, is for the meter (or tuner) to mimic the human
'device' as closely as possible. But each device, human ear or
electronic meter, sees/hears something at least a little bit different.

I'll let yo have the last word.

Cheers, and I've enjoyed the discussion because I've crystallized my own
thoughts a bit as a result of our discussion,


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