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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000079.txt from 2001/02

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: SV: SV: [kl] A TV show about K. 621b
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:27:44 -0500

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:37:42 +0100, alf.horberg@-----.se said:

> Dan,
>
> I think the key point here is that we have the music, the Wintertuur
> manuscript and the Notturno K.437 "Mi langer tacendo", from the six
> notturni, written for a BH in G. Both these pieces ask for a low
> C#/Db. But, there are, as far as we know, no surviving BHs in G, or,
> any BH with a low C#/Db key from this time. That's the mystery.

Or just the facts: the instruments were lost. Is it that you think that
it's implausible that both instruments, in A and in G, could have
disappeared?

Yet, pretty clearly, they did.

> Both these pieces are dated to 1787 so Stadler must have had an
> instrument like that in his possession already, or, had this
> construction made at this time. Standard BHs at this time only had
> keys for D and C. Not even for Eb. So, these notes on a BH is a much
> later invention. Probably with the exception of Lutz/Stadlers.

Yup.

> The obvious questions are of cause; what did it look like? what did it
> sound like? why did he have it made in G? (Because Mozart first wanted
> to write the concerto in G major? (My own simple theory)), just like
> the mysteries around the K.622 basset-clarinet. Of cause, this is all
> linked to the whole pattern of mysteries surrounding Stadler and K.622
> and what happened to his bag in Germany and all that, so soberly
> spoken, this is a little bit like splitting hairs. But for people like
> us it becomes dead serious.

I don't really see why this is a problem. He added a key, two keys. So
what? I don't actually think that that addition makes a significant
difference to the tonal qualities of the instrument.

(I've done it myself:-)

Actually, I don't even really think that Eric's angled joint makes all
that much difference to the low notes either, even though clearly that's
the way Stadler/Lotz did it. Doing it straight, the low notes are
pretty resonant, and in my opinion, not inappropriate to the music.

Hi, Alf, BTW.

Tony
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