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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000056.txt from 2000/09

From: (Tony Pay)
Subj: RE: [kl] An interesting story about Schoenberg
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 14:59:05 -0400

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:21:32 -0400, said:

> Of course, another possibility is that the story was basically true
> except that it was actually some other piece by some other, not so
> acute, composer/conductor, then re-applied by some storyteller who
> disliked Schoenberg or his music and wanted to make a point.

The story wouldn't be 'basically true', then, would it?

Surely the only interest of the story is that it's a story told, not by
'some storyteller', but by someone we might well think trustworthy (the
principal bassoon and sometime chairman of the VPO) about a great
composer who was very much maligned and misunderstood in Vienna at the
time, to the point of being thought a charlatan.

And the question is, do we believe the story?

If it wasn't an accurate story, but rather something that may have had a
small basis in fact, but which was then exaggerated in order to diminish
Schoenberg's credibility, then I think that to call putting it about in
one's memoirs, 'making a point', is rather too charitable as well.

Doing that would just be criminal, quite independently of what other
composer/conductors are or aren't able to do when rehearsing their

Consider: if I call you a thief, and you complain, it can be no part of
my defence of my statement that there are other people 'like you' who
*are* thieves. The only thing that counts is whether or not *you* are a

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