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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000778.txt from 2000/07

From: les debusk <sflane@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Weber Concerto derived from Mozart?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:01:16 -0400

one point to this question.. i know there arnt many if any factual representations
of mozart in webers concertos... but it was the tone in different movements that
just caught the eye.. everyone feels a different thing with they play them.. stamitz
has its own.. so does Mannhein.. but i think the way we all project these rhythms
and notes into your selves is as a whole, the same, but individually very
different.. i was just looking for how everyone felt when playing these pieces..
thank you

Les DeBusk

Andrea Bergamin wrote:

> > Da: les debusk <sflane@-----.com>
> > Risposta: klarinet@-----.org
> > Data: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:46:12 -0400
> > A: klarinet@-----.org
> > Oggetto: Re: [kl] Weber Concerto derived from Mozart?
> >
> > I had come across an article which stated that Webers Concertos were thought
> > upon when/after Mozart wrote his famous clarinet concerto.. i cant remember
> > where i read this but it was just on my mind.. do you think that Mozart's tone
> > and way or composer in his concerto rubbed off onto weber's clarinet
> > concerto?..
>
> I'd like to read this article.
>
> Technically speaking... there is no evidence of this fact.
>
> Mozart were affected by the early works for clarinet and it is obvious from
> some behavior (for example... the contrast of the registers: the melodic
> line is not "fluid" but is broken through the register zones of the
> instrument...). Mozart refers to the clarinet technique he has heard in
> Mannheim and there are some similitude with Stamitz's concerts.
>
> In Weber the instrument is used more modernly: jumps, dynamics,
> articulation... something you will never find in Mozart's 622.
>
> >From the formal point of view the two concerts are completely different.
>
> ---
>
> If you are talking of general "tone" then we can only discuss on subjective
> feelings.
>
> To me... they are completely different.
> In Weber you can find a flaunty way of playing: more virtuosistic,
> wheedling, whimpering...
>
> In Mozart the clarinet is more evocative, more innerly deep; there are no
> "commercial effects".
>
> But... this is subjective!
>
> > Da: les debusk <sflane@-----.com>
> > Risposta: klarinet@-----.org
> > Data: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:46:12 -0400
> > A: klarinet@-----.org
> > Oggetto: Re: [kl] Weber Concerto derived from Mozart?
> >
> > I had come across an article which stated that Webers Concertos were thought
> > upon when/after Mozart wrote his famous clarinet concerto.. i cant remember
> > where i read this but it was just on my mind.. do you think that Mozart's tone
> > and way or composer in his concerto rubbed off onto weber's clarinet
> > concerto?..
> >
> > "Dee D. Hays" wrote:
> >
>
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