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Klarinet Archive - Posting 001126.txt from 2000/04

From: George Kidder <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Commercial Msg (Sorry Neil)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:10:32 -0400

I guess I don't see this as a "commercial message" in the sense that Neil
is objecting to. I had made a comment about the lack of availability of
quarter strength Legere reeds in the US, and Walter told me of a source for
them, in a short message. It just happens that the source is himself.
Suppose it had been Muncy, or International, or whoever - this would still
be valuable information. I think there is a distinction between a direct
answer to a problem, even when the answer is "I have them for sale", then
some of the other plugging to which Neil (and myself) rightly object.

And by the by, Neil, I notice that you still read the message!

At 11:55 AM 04/25/2000 -0700, Neil wrote:
>Actually, I quite like what you've done, Walter. Putting
>the words "commercial message" in the subject heading allows
>everybody to decide whether or not they want to spend time
>reading a commercial post. If not, they can summarily delete
>the message. I think we should make this an established con-
>vention on Klarinet, rather than having people endlessly apol-
>ogize and meekly indicate "Sorry for the shameless plug" etc.
>ad nauseam, when they are obviously not really sorry (otherwise
>the action would stop). I would suggest that the subject head-
>ing *begin* with the word COMMERCIAL in uppercase letters, mak-
>ing it easy to identify those messages at a glance in one's "in"
>box. This would include *any* message where commercial content
>is present, regardless of whatever else is contained (excluding
>tag lines), as well as all these poorly disguised marketing ploys
>-- in the form of "mystery" and "guess the player" games -- to get
>people to visit a web site. If anybody thinks this tactic isn't
>totally transparent, think again. Since commercial things like
>this are becoming a normal part of membership on Klarinet (regret-
>fully; it wasn't this way 6 years ago), I think members should be
>given the opportunity to enjoy the list without the commercial ex-
>posure if they would rather.
>-- Neil
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