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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000367.txt from 2000/04

From: "Michael Byerly" <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Student motivation
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:48:39 -0400

>From: "Mark Charette" <>
>To: <>
>Subject: Re: [kl] Student motivation
>Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:24:22 -0400
>From: "Michael Byerly" <>
> > Perhaps my statement seemed a bit overgeneralized. I do have several
> > friends who are wonderful musicians but who lack exceptional talent in
> > academics. However, if you were to compare students in my school Wind
> > Ensemble to students chosen randomly from the rest of the student body,
> > would find that the music students tend to take harder classes and
> > better grades than students in that random draw. This would also apply
> > students in drama, choir, and orchestra, for example, and I believe a
> > similar trend would exist in any school. But in no way would I claim
> > ALL music students are academically talented.
>You're claiming a trend. I've heard anecdotal evidence, but I've never seen
>any hard stats. Belief ain't truth. It _may_ be true, but if we use
>anecdotal evidence then I can easily show you just about anything.
>mark C.

Mark, you are 100% correct when you say that I have no hard evidence to
offer. I have seen studies that have shown that music students have higher
average scores on SATs and other tests than do non-music students, but I do
not have access to them at this time, and therefore cannot offer them as
valid evidence. Perhaps someone else on the list knows of such reports.
But regardless of a lack of such evidence, I still believe that music
students tend to be more academically talented than other students, based on
what I have seen and experienced in the Portland, Oregon metropolitan area.
This may or may not relate to conditions in the rest of the world. If you
choose not to believe me, that is certainly your choice.

-Michael Byerly
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