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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000155.txt from 2000/04

From: mickey aka <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Concave table (was Need help from list.)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:38:13 -0400

I think as long as the mouthpiece table is symmetrical
as opposed to twisted in any way, than a slight
concavity is acceptable. I have, as one goes from one
concept to another through a playing carrier, picked
up several mouthpieces from various manufacturers and
they all vary to some degree in this area. What is
constant and the reason they play is that they are
faced evenly from side to side. When adjusting
mouthpieces, it is common to flatten the table first
and then face the piece. This is done to reduce the
variables. If you can factor in the concave surface
and still have the reed seal at the window and use a
ligature that supports the reed without squelching the
good a concave table gives you…. Then great!!

--- wrote:
> I received many responses to my query. Thanks to all
> of you for your help.
> The reason that I asked the question is as follows.
> In working with the Zinner blanks, I found that they
> all come with concave tables. One person suggested
> to me that this was caused by a manufacturing
> problem.
> In corresponding with a highly regarded mouthpiece
> technician, I was informed that this concavity is
> intentional, and in somewhat of an imitation of the
> old Chedeville blanks, which also supposedly had the
> same feature.
> The Zinner blanks are certainly excellent, they
> produce a lively and focused tone which can be
> "dark" (sorry Dan) but not dull. I thought that this
> was due mostly to the angled vs parallel wall
> construction (inner walls of the baffle).
> However, I have found that if you sand the table
> flat, which is certainly possible, much of the
> "magic" of the mouthpiece seems to disappear. Now
> you can still make a fine mouthpiece, but a lot of
> the "liveliness" seems to be missing.
> In the "CXZ" line of mouthpieces that I sell, I have
> been leaving the table just as it comes, and
> adjusting the facing and the width of the side and
> tip rails. I have gotten excellent results.
> Excellent, that is except for a few individuals who
> seem somewhat baffled by the arrangement.
> So, I needed a reality check.
> As you can see from the posts, many mouthpiece
> models come with a concave table, and people are
> playing happily on them on a daily basis.
> I was taught that anything other than a totally flat
> table was an anathema. Not I find myself playing on
> Bb/A and eefer mouthpieces with cancave tables.
> Anybody else have experiences, fact OR opinion on
> this issue?????
> Thanks for all the responses. You have helped.
> Walter Grabner
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