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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000673.txt from 1999/04

From: Ken Wolman <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Beta blockers: BEWARE, please!
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:02:25 -0400 wrote:

> All this brings up a vague memory of fellow students at U. C. Berkeley in the
> 1960s smoking valerian-laced cigarettes and burning valerian smudge mixtures
> (ground up incense sprinkled over charcoal) for a legal high.

Don't forget about nutmeg to get high on. That was another goodie.
Maybe I was doing it wrong...though at the end I considered having
myself baked into a cake.

> But there's enough credible information here to make me wonder whether
> valerian really is a strong enough mood-altering substance that the warning
> Ken Wolman sounded about beta blockers triggering bipolar swings or other
> mood disorders might also apply to valerian.

I must amend what I said because I made a mistake. When I went off at
Valerian root too, I was thinking of something else: St. John's Wort,
"nature's own mood equalizer." Again: for someone with depressive or
anxious tendencies, and who is being treated with antidepressants and/or
antiangst:-) medications, St. John's Wort will have at you like a
battalion of Turkish janissaries chasing Infidels. And you cannot
preduct what will happen: either you will get REAL depressed or you will
get SO wired that people will think you're copper-plated. SJW is
reputed terrific if you are NOT taking anything else. As to how it
works and plays with musicians and other performers, quien sabe?

Ken Wolman dbtrader Deutsche Bank, N.A.
1251 Sixth Avenue New York, NY 10019 212-469-6494

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