Klarinet Archive - Posting 001091.txt from 1999/01
From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Rudeness and humility
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:52:00 -0500
At 01:41 PM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
> My original posts were simply made
>>to ask questions, which I felt were satisfatorilly answered - even if I do
>>not agree with all the information presented.
> Excuse, me Roger, but your original posts to my comments on
>"subjective and objective, was riddled with one knee jerk reaction after
>another to individual sentences or statements, without reading the whole
>and spending any time thinking about it. You said as much as you neared the
>end of my post. You could have saved yourself a lot of time by simply
>considering the wholly formed presentation before you began to
>inappropriately comment on its' individual parts.
Please forgive me for disagreeing with you. Of course, I am not asking you
to agree with me - just saying that I don't agree with you. If that is the
way you read it - my apologies.
I'm not trying to insult you, but just to recommend that when
>someone presents a document to you that contains information gleaned from
>years of experience and thinking about those things that you give it a
>little reflection and thought yourself before you respond; otherwise, you
>may waste your time by making a whole series of inappropriate comments and
>criticisms which may well evaporate once you reflect on the whole matter.
Thank you for pointing that out to me.
> If after due consideration, reflection and an attempt to test out
>or "prove" these ideas yourself you still see problems, questions and
>objections, I would think that your response will be more to the point
>and beneficial to all.
Again, please forgive me for disagreeing with you. I have every right to
say that and then not say why - especially if I feel it would be pointless
in this conversation. I simply wanted to have a clarification of your
statement regarding a "poor" clarinet.
>Roger, that's true, I was responding, not asserting out of the blue.
My most sincere apologies to you if that is the way my post sounded. It
certainly was not intended to imply that you were "asserting out of the blue."
>The R-13; that's another matter. Whatever its' virtues, I am increasingly
>convinced as I see improvements offered by those who are thoughtful,
>knowledgeable and creative that to continue in the direction of the R-13,
>acoustically speaking , is not the best thing for the clarinetists
>freedom for music making on the clarinet.
Then do you feel it is a poor clarinet? That was the word in your last
post that I responded to that I wanted you to clarify. Was the word "poor"
inclusive of the R-13 - of course - I am asking for your opinion. I think
the list would place great value on hearing your opinion - not just using
other words. If the word "poor" did not apply, then I would (not hastily)
assert that you did respond out of the blue without thinking - that's why I
asked the question - before saying so. However, if you feel it is a "poor"
clarinet, then you were perfectly reasonable in your response - if not
>This is my opinion, of course, and I have very sound reasons for holding
>that opinion; again, I am not looking so much to what has been, or even
>what is, but what is possible for us in the future.
You seem to have very sound reasons for holding the opinion you stated. I
don't think I have implied otherwise.
>CHANGE A MAN'S MIND AGAINST HIS WILL, HE REMAINS OF THE SAME OPINION STILL.
Since we are employing quotes, here are a couple of my favorites!
"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes
Jean Paul Richter (1763-1825)
"if I were to try to read, much less answer, all the attacks made on me,
this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very
best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until
the end. If the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't
amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, 10 angels swearing I
was right would make no difference."
Professor of Clarinet
Director, Concert Band & Symphonic Winds
Illinois Wesleyan Univerisyt
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