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Klarinet Archive - Posting 001631.txt from 1998/04

From: Mark Charette <>
Subj: Re: [kl] Meta-question about list
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:24:48 -0400

Tim Roberts wrote:
> I have a question about the switch of the klarinet list from to
> When we had a week or so of digest trouble at and I first
> started getting messages from the sneezy list, I wondered if the second list had
> been started by people tired of the trouble, who were attempting to
> "steal the customers" of However, because the transition was handled
> so cleanly, as Dan noted, and because there haven't been a host of complaints, I
> suspect I was wrong. (Again.)
> What was the root reason for the switch? Was it moved to a machine over which
> the owners have better control? Was this transition done with the blessings of
> all involved? Was it because of the troubles we saw?

I'll answer part, and I'm sure Jim Fay will answer a bit more.

First and foremost, it was done with the blessings of the original
(and still) list owners, Jim Fay and Cap Bromley. I offered the services
of primarily because it's much easier to administer. The
previous administrator of the list, Ken, did not have physical access
to the machine that ran Klarinet, and that didn't help when there
were machine outages. I'm suroprised by how well everything ran given
the limitations that the owners and administrator had to contend with.

The "second" list is the same list as the "first" list, just a
new name and software. I have others within my company who can
help do the day-to-day maintenance on this machine and keep it
running even in my absence.

Jim and Cap mulled over the switch for quite a while before telling
me to have a go at it. We've tried to make it as painless as possible
(however, as some of you now know, ezmlm is _real_ picky about letting
you post! Maybe I'm paranoid, but it'll be real hard to get spammers
on this list, and real easy to kick them off if they masquerade as
someone else.)

There are times that I wish this list were moderated, but all in
all it hasn't gotten to that point yet, IMHO.

The owners are now Jim, Cap, and myself, and we all can do
remote administration. The machine sits in a rack about 50 feet
from my desk, and quietly attempts to keep up with the traffic :^)

Mark Charette, Webmaster -
"There is only physics involved in playing a clarinet poorly.
There is no physics involved in playing a clarinet well.
That is performed by magic." - Fizzisist, on the Clarinet BB

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