Klarinet Archive - Posting 001548.txt from 1998/04
From: James Fay <n3hpz@-----.com>
Subj: [klarinet] Butget cutbacks
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:12:07 -0400
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Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:48:54 PDT
From: "Kevin Fay" <kevinfay@-----.com>
Subject: Re: budget cutbacks
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:48:54 PDT
Sports v. Music is not the same as Apples v. Oranges. More like Apples
v. Trucks--entirely different things.
I have friends who have doctorates in music--it is an academic pursuit,
not unlike language or mathematics in that regard. Why no debate about
cutting the math department when the jocks need new straps?
----Original Message Follows----
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:27:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Roger Garrett <rgarrett@-----.edu>
Subject: Re: budget cutbacks
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Jason Hsien wrote:
> A lot of people are going to kill me for this but I side with the
> decision to support more for the athletic department. After all, the
> athletic department obviously is able to earn lots of money for the
> On average, the public is more likely to support high school sports
> have 2-3 local television stations, one of them an NBC station, that
> high school sports games, another unaffiliated one with one-hour
> of all sports, and then a local community channel) than high school
> and therefore schools earn more money from sports, so they can spend
No one would ever fault you for holding such an opinion.....it agrees
most of corporate America! But, on the other hand, I probably would not
want you teaching my children music either!
> Also, on uniforms, you are being absolutely unfair. One good wool-made
> uniform can cost on the upwards of US$300-500. A football players'
> as long as the athlete opts not to pay for it him or herself to get
> personalized, can cost, maximum, $75-100, including all that thick
> Normally, football uniforms are nothing more than nylon, polyester,
> spandex. Band uniforms are much more complex, with custom
> interior lining, etc...
Mouhpiece guard = $5
Helmet = $35
Pants = $18
Jersy (custom) = 30
set of pads = $45
Shoes = $95-160
Socks = $18 (for pkg of three)
Total = $249-254
Band uniforms range from $100-475 each with most falling somewhere
halfway between (depending on the bid and the number being
well as the style, accessories, etc.).
> But, I do agree that you should look into whether or not your school
> is paying a lot more for sports. It's more likely that they are
> same, it's just athletic boosters earn more.
A big issue to consider might be - is more school money (budgeted
the athletic dept./school board approved) for the football team than any
other classes? Probably. Band is not the only one discriminated
But, most band programs have a much higher budgetary need than other
classes - that is, disposable budget - new music every year is
particularly expensive. When one Manhattan Beach, 4 minute composition
costs $135, or new Symphonies for band by major wind composers cost
upwards of $300 each (Symphony #3 by Barnes is $375 and Lord of the
Symphony No. 1 by de Meij is $450!), it is no wonder that band budgets
remain difficult to fund.
There are reasons beyond just professional sports why music budgets are
cut....most of them do not convince the public they are worthwhile.
does it take? For one.......place the emphasis where the students and
parents (and community) demand a band program.
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