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Klarinet Archive - Posting 001500.txt from 1998/04

From: Roger Garrett <>
Subj: Re: [klarinet] Re: sound, shape and material
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:10:35 -0400

On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Dan Leeson: wrote:
> Roger, Cindy can offer her view. That she might not know that we
> have hashed this one out several times, is not a reason to suggest
> that the topic is unworthy of further discussion or that she should
> not contribute on this matter.
> Some topics appear on this list constantly and newer people have a right
> to purse those topics that might interest them or topics on which they
> feel they can contribute.
> Our objective here should be to invite opinion and not shut it down,
> though you are correct about there being a great deal in the archives
> on this topic.

So sorry....didn't appear to want to shut it down.....just trying to point
out that we had had another free for all and that she could review it in
the archives. I personally have no problem with seeing you readdress the
issue again (always entertaining!).......but.....I don't want to see more
of the same, "Wrong.....", "You didn't read my post correctly....", "You
obviously know nothing about physics....", "You can't change the laws of
physics....." "Completely inaccurate......", kind of arguements come from
the same source for this is so depressing to see that kind
of disdain/disregard for other people and their feelings!

But.......I do want to say one thing....and we have discussed this before.

While I have no arguement with the issue of sound as it applies to
materials (it would be difficult to tell the difference between a
Greenline R13 and a wooden R-13.......and these tests have been done!), I
can tell you with complete certainty - without any double blind tests -
that I notice a difference in the resistance/feel of the instrument
between a wooden instrument and an identical (in terms of
specs/construction/bore/undercut/taper/ect.) instrument made out of
something other than wood. The Greenline R-13 blows differently than it's
wooden counterpart. I feel the difference as I play - and to date, I
have tested 100's of both. Further, I assert that Cindy's comment earlier
with regard to it "feeling different" had nothing to do with how she felt
emotionally about the clarinet.....rather, it had to do with the phenomena
that I am attempting to describe....the sensation one has in terms of the
resistance/feel when one blows through an instrument. The materials are
the only difference between these instruments, and I have concluded for
myself that the materials, therefore, render an impact on the performance
quality of the instrument.

As far as the sound....if Bob Spring plays on a Greenline or a Wooden
Buffet, I sure as hell can't tell the difference! He still sounds like
Bob Spring!

Roger Garrett

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