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Klarinet Archive - Posting 001172.txt from 1998/04

From: "Gene Nibbelin" <>
Subj: Re: Re: Mouthpiece Facings & Reed Strength
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:54:11 -0400

Kevin -

As an "old-timer" amateur, I agree with your use of the B45. I tried
several of them a while back and found them unsatisfactory, seeming quite
stuffy and difficult to play for me.

Your mention of the Woodwind K10 intrigues me. As I posted earlier, I was
quite surprised to find that the K10s provided with my Leblanc Concertos
work very well. I didn't post the following that I found with the K10s.
The two mouthpieces are visually different, viewed from the facing side.
The interior measurements may be the same, but I have no way to tell.

The strange thing is that the mpc. that came with the Bb works very well
with the Bb and the one that came with the A works very well with the A.
However. switching the mpcs. results in poorer results. Could it be that
Leblanc has actually matched the mpcs. and the horns, or is it a
coincidence? Interesting.

Since I am using both mpcs. in our orchestra (Gulf Coast Symphony), it
makes quick switches a lot easier, but it does complicate the selection of

In any event, this summer, I am planning on doing some more mpc. hunting,
starting with the Hite offerings. He's practically a neighbor, being about
20 miles south on US 41 from Cape Coral.
Should have checked out the Hites a long time ago.

Any comments, anyone?

Gene Nibbelin
> From: Kevin Fay <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Mouthpiece Facings & Reed Strength
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 12:43 PM
> Gosh--and the B45 is supposed to be the world's most popular orchestral
> mouthpiece!! Mine is now used as a doorstop. It functions quite well.
> ;-)
> On a more serious note, I am always looking for the perfect mouthpiece,
> one that will take care of all problems AND is cheap and readily
> availiable for student purchase. Personally, I use one of those custom
> things--in my case, a Dan Johnston J facing--and really like it. It's
> hard to have my jr. high students shuffle off to Buffalo for a fitting,
> though.
> I've come across the Woodwind K10. It's a little closer than my facing,
> and seems a little brighter, but seems to be a pretty OK commercial
> mouthpiece. I wish the tip rail was wider, though.
> Any thoughts out there on what to suggest to your students? I have
> usually recommended either the Hite Premier or Clark Fobes' student
> line, both pretty OK and reasonable.
> kjf
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: RCLARINET <>
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:44:24 EDT
> To:
> Subject: Re: Re: Mouthpiece Facings & Reed Strength
> Reply-To:
> In a message dated 4/17/98 5:45:38 PM, you wrote:
> <<At 09:47 PM 4/16/98 -0500, Roger Garrett wrote:
> >The M13 mouthpiece has the following schedule and tip opening:
> >
> >104 tip opening (1.04)
> >4
> >10
> >21
> >33
> >
> >What this means frankly, is that the tip is very close, and the curve
> >schedule is quite short. If you are playing on 2 or 2.5 reeds, you
> either
> >have no strength in the embouchure, or you never play above a high C.
> Doesn't the short curve schedule (given a constant tip opening) require
> a
> softer reed than a longer, more gradual curve like a B45?
> The shorter curve does indeed mitigate the closeness of the tip, causing
> the
> reed to feel stiffer than it would feel if the tip were the same and the
> curve
> was longer.
> The B45, however, does not have what I would call a more graduated
> curve.
> It's schedule is not much longer, especially near the tip, and then the
> tip
> itself flares quickly open to a whopping 1.18, and some I have measured
> have
> gone up to 1.20!
> Only a sax player should ever play the B45. It is not fit for anyone who
> wants
> to play the clarinet seriously in a classical setting.
> tom
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