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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000731.txt from 1998/04

From: "Steve Zawicki" <>
Subj: Re: re:Thud in tonguing
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:52:43 -0400

The problem is know as anchor tonguing. That's where the tongue tip is
anchored behind the front bottom teeth. I still anchor tongue and have
learned to tongue perfectly and just as fast as the normal tonguing.
Students who may have worn dental correction devices (such as pallet
seporators) will probably suffer from this problem.

Steve Zawicki
24yr old Clarinet player/lover

> From: Courtney Bogott <>
> To:
> Subject: re:Thud in tonguing
> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 4:58 PM
> I am 17 and I have played for 5 years. I have had that problem for 4 of
> those years!! No one ever taught me how to tongue, and so I just
> automatically started using the middle of my tongue. It definitely was
> frustrating and last year, when my teacher was trying to help me fix it,
> I wanted to quit! I finally learned to use the tip of my tongue, and now
> things are going much better. Maybe that is the problem that your
> students are having. I took lessons for almost two years before anyone
> noticed that I was doing it, and I didn't realize that it was wrong.
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:01:28 -0700
> From: "John Gates" <>
> Subject: Thud in tonguing
> I have had over the years many students who have a thick sort of thud in
> the
> sound when the tongue. Generally as the students practices and improves
> it
> goes away. However it takes a long time and is always frustrating and
> discouraging for the student. I'm sure that many of you who teach know
> the
> type of problem I'm talking about. I have made the following
> observations
> but have no method of fixing this problem.
> 1) Students generally are teenage girls anywhere from about 13 - 17.
> 2) I've never had an adult student or anyone younger than 11 who has
> had
> the problem
> 3) Occasionally boys have the problem but its not as bad.
> 4) Students that have begun with me don't have problem, at least not
> as
> dramatic as the other ones.
> 5) M/P and reed setup doesn't seem to be causing this
> 6) tongue placement doesn't seem to effect it.
> Does anybody have suggestions on this? Is there a name for the problem?
> ------------------------------

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