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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000009.txt from 1997/12

From: Jennifer Rose McKenna <>
Subj: Re: New topic...when to transcribe?
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:16:12 -0500

I do not agree with you roger, if you sit on the edge of the chair, how
you should sit when you play bass anyway, if you tilt the bell in toward
your body more to compensate for the neck, the instrument will not be too
close to the chair, the only problem that i would see with that would be
that the mouthpiece would be higher than you would be used to. so sit on a
book or something. it'll work. and if you sit on the edge of your chair,
breathing will imporove. i don't see your logic in tilting the instrument
would make breathing difficult?? if anything tilting the instrument would
make you sit up straighter!!! apparantly you haven't tried that before.

jennifer mckenna
university of north texas
clarinet concentration/music ed major

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Roger Shilcock wrote:

> Personally, I don't see why anyone should *want* to have a similar
> embouchure on the bass - one is dealing with two pretty different
> instruments. I started out that way on the bass, but found I couldn't
> control it. Also, if you try to sit with the top part of the instrument
> sloping away, you will be sitting right on the edge of your seat, which
> may well not be a good thing for several reasons, not least the increased
> likelihood of falling off. Another reason is that it can make breathing
> difficult.
> Roger Shilcock
> On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Roger Garrett wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:30:54 -0600 (CST)
> > From: Roger Garrett <>
> > Reply-To:
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: New topic...when to transcribe?
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Andrea Kellaway wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to Roger and Jennifer for all of your great advice!
> > >
> > > Yes, Jennifer, I am playing on a more sax-like set up. That is why, Roger, I was so
> > > confused at your statement that the clarinet and bass clarinet embouchures are a lot
> > > alike. I too play on a student model, but it has a great tone, so I have never seen
> > > any need to change, but it is the saxophone set up that is doing me harm, I agree.
> > > Unfortunately, I do not have the money for a better set-up, and all the bass
> > > clarinets my university owns have the same set up, so I am at a loss for what to do.
> > > Is it possible to get a proper neck custom made, I wonder?
> >
> > Andrea...
> >
> > I have students set the instrument under their chair (the pin that is!)
> > with the horn at an angle and use a neck strap to support the instrument.
> > This is the only way to get the angle to be more like a clarinet. Yes,
> > you end up tilting your head a bit.....not as bad as the Charles Bay
> > advertisement suggests....but a little. I learned this from Oliver Green
> > in the Detroit Symphony Orchestra, and I played that way until only a few
> > years ago when I bought my first Buffet Prestige Bass with the modified
> > neck. If you are short, you may need a taller chair or to sit on
> > something to raise you up, but this is the only way I know to modify the
> > placement. I absolutely do not support the notion of changing the
> > embouchure because of a physical problem like the angle of the neck.
> > Other solutions?
> >
> > Roger Garrett
> > IWU
> >
> >

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