Klarinet Archive - Posting 000075.txt from 2012/01

From: Martin Marks <martymarks511@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Barrels
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:48:43 -0500

And the problem is the same changing from Bb to A clarinet and back
again. Wood clarinets take much longer to warm up to pitch. Brass
instruments don't seem to take as long to get up to pitch. My
saxophones only needs a few minutes. A 63mm barrel is not too short
sometimes. I've been using a 15 year old Ralph Morgan clarinet
mouthpiece for doubling. It plays very sharp and isn't too bright
like traditional Vandoren mouthpieces.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM, David McClune <dmcclune@-----.edu> wrote:
> I would like to clarify this discussion. =A0The traditional Vandoren mout=
hpieces were designed to play at 442 and the 13 series to play at 440. =A0T=
he 13 chamber is more scooped out which provides the perceived warmer sound.
>
> A research project about 20 years ago found that it took 22 minutes of pl=
aying clarinet before it was warm =A0enough to have a stable pitch. =A0A cl=
arinet is not "in tune" until that warm up time is complete. =A0THEN...we c=
an tune with precision.
>
> Doubling in pit ensembles is a unique problem unto itself! =A0If I have t=
o play a given instrument cold during the show, then I tune it cold to figu=
re out where to pull/push the mouthpiece (sax) or barrel (clarinet). =A0Tha=
t is where the shorter barrels come in handy.
>
> David
>
> Dr. David McClune
> University Professor of Music
> Union University-1862
> 1050 Union University Drive
> Jackson, TN 38305
>
> 731-661-5294
> dmcclune@-----.edu
>
> www.mcclunemouthpiece.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Marks [mailto:martymarks511@-----.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:29 AM
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [kl] Barrels
>
> Not only are they longer but in the quest for darker sounds the bores hav=
e gotten larger and the new Vandoren 13 =A0Series are considerably flatter =
than the traditional Vandoren clarinet mouthpiecea. =A0The 13 Series Vandor=
en mouthpieces are supposed to tune to A440 but on a cold clarinet they wil=
l often play very flat until the clarinet is warm.
> This is of particular concern to doublers who often must play on cold ins=
truments, thus the need for 64mm or sometimes even 63mm barrels even on new=
er clarinets
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Lelia Loban <lelialoban@-----.net> w=
rote:
>> Nancy Buckman wrote,
>>>It has been my experience that the mouthpiece will sometimes make a
>>>huge
>> difference in in pitch on different clarinets. >
>>
>> I'm an amateur and still emphatically denying that I collect
>> clarinets, although I do seem to own, er, quite a few of them . . .
>> and yes, I agree with Nancy that the mouthpiece can affect the pitch.
>> The relative length of the mouthpiece to the barrel to the upper stack
>> above the topmost keys has varied considerably over the decades and from=
one manufacturer to another.
>> In general, I find that modern mouthpieces are longer than antique or
>> old vintage mouthpieces, and consequently the newer beaks often make
>> old clarinets play flat.
>>
>> Lelia Loban
>> http://www.scoreexchange.com/search?composer=3DLoban
>>
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