Klarinet Archive - Posting 000072.txt from 2012/01
From: JMarioneau@-----.com
Subj: Re: [kl] Barrels
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:36:33 -0500
Excellent advice Dave. I always tell the band directors that I mentor not
to try to tune their clarinet players at the beginning of rehearsal. The
clarinet, being made of thick wood, does not conduct heat nearly as fast as
brass or other metal instruments. Some band directors try to tune their
clarinets at the beginning of rehearsal. Then about 20 minutes into rehearsal,
they wonder why there are so many pitch problems in the clarinet section. By
the way Dave, I do play your mouthpiece and the pitch is very good with my
Buffet RC Bb and A.
James Marioneaux
Principal Clarinet Baytown and Galveston Symphony Orchestras
Retired high school band director
Band and woodwind clinician
In a message dated 1/17/2012 2:05:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dmcclune@-----.edu writes:
I would like to clarify this discussion. The traditional Vandoren
mouthpieces were designed to play at 442 and the 13 series to play at 440. The 13
chamber is more scooped out which provides the perceived warmer sound.
A research project about 20 years ago found that it took 22 minutes of
playing clarinet before it was warm enough to have a stable pitch. A
clarinet is not "in tune" until that warm up time is complete. THEN...we can tune
with precision.
Doubling in pit ensembles is a unique problem unto itself! If I have to
play a given instrument cold during the show, then I tune it cold to figure
out where to pull/push the mouthpiece (sax) or barrel (clarinet). That is
where the shorter barrels come in handy.
David
Dr. David McClune
University Professor of Music
Union University-1862
1050 Union University Drive
Jackson, TN 38305
731-661-5294
dmcclune@-----.edu
www.mcclunemouthpiece.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Marks [mailto:martymarks511@-----.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:29 AM
To: The Klarinet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [kl] Barrels
Not only are they longer but in the quest for darker sounds the bores have
gotten larger and the new Vandoren 13 Series are considerably flatter
than the traditional Vandoren clarinet mouthpiecea. The 13 Series Vandoren
mouthpieces are supposed to tune to A440 but on a cold clarinet they will
often play very flat until the clarinet is warm.
This is of particular concern to doublers who often must play on cold
instruments, thus the need for 64mm or sometimes even 63mm barrels even on
newer clarinets
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Lelia Loban <lelialoban@-----.net>
wrote:
> Nancy Buckman wrote,
>>It has been my experience that the mouthpiece will sometimes make a
>>huge
> difference in in pitch on different clarinets. >
>
> I'm an amateur and still emphatically denying that I collect
> clarinets, although I do seem to own, er, quite a few of them . . .
> and yes, I agree with Nancy that the mouthpiece can affect the pitch.
> The relative length of the mouthpiece to the barrel to the upper stack
> above the topmost keys has varied considerably over the decades and from
one manufacturer to another.
> In general, I find that modern mouthpieces are longer than antique or
> old vintage mouthpieces, and consequently the newer beaks often make
> old clarinets play flat.
>
> Lelia Loban
> http://www.scoreexchange.com/search?composer=Loban
>
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