Klarinet Archive - Posting 000044.txt from 2011/10

From: Martin Marks <martymarks511@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] tremulo-need help
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:18:56 -0400

This was a single note tremolo. Half notes with 3 flags thru the stem
according to the OP.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:28 PM, James Langdell <jameslangdell@-----.com> w=
rote:
> Another way of getting at a similar result is to give each clarinet
> part a pair of notes to play derived from adjacent clarinet parts. If
> each player is shifting between two notes that are part of the harmony
> of the moment, it adds up to =A0give a sense of activity within a
> stationary chord that a string tremulo carries.
>
> --James
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Richard Dryer <rdryer@-----.com> wrote:
>> I have had fairly good luck in my groups with simulating this effect by
>> having the marimba double the clarinets. =A0A marimba roll will give at =
least
>> a hint of the tremolo feel.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger Hewitt [mailto:rogerclarinet@-----.uk]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:05 AM
>> To: The Klarinet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [kl] tremulo-need help
>>
>> I have problems with that answer: violinists would NOT "bounce the bow",
>> they would cause the bow to go up and down (looking a bit like shivering)
>> with the bow in constant contact.=A0 Also, depending on the tempo of the
>> piece, it would probably be impossible to tongue at the required speed a=
nd
>> the original violinists would probably be unable to play exact 32nds (=
=3D
>> demisemiquavers), but would just "vibrate" their bow as fast as possible.
>> The only option is to tongue as fast as possible or feather-tongue.
>> However, the arranger is generally at fault for expecting such things fr=
om
>> clarinets.=A0 Quite often a conductor might choose to replace these pass=
ages
>> with long notes, which might lose the effect but result in a more pleasi=
ng
>> sound overall: again this would depend on the abilities of the players
>> concerned.
>>
>>
>> It is still called tremolo (or tremolando) on one note.=A0 The only exce=
ption
>> is if the tempo is slow enough that exact demisemis are possible, in whi=
ch
>> case there is no problem!=A0 "Slow enough" is likely to be different for
>> violins and clarinets, and indeed for percussionists, brass players and =
so
>> on which all have different maximum speeds for tongueing/stick-work
>> according to their skill.
>>
>> Roger Hewitt
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Martin Marks <martymarks511@-----.com>
>> To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 2:14
>> Subject: Re: [kl] tremulo-need help
>>
>> If they only show one note with the slashes they are not tremolos.
>> They are 32nd notes.=A0 I would tongue them.=A0 This is a string
>> instrument effect.=A0 You're playing a transcription from a violin part.
>> A violinist would bounce the bow.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Shertzer, Howard (shertzhg)
>> <SHERTZHG@-----.edu> wrote:
>>> In a band piece called Universal Judgment, a Symphonic Poem by Camille =
De
>> Nardis,
>>> Transcribed by Antonio Cafarella, there are number of half notes that a=
re
>> written as tremulos (3 slashes in stem) in the
>>> Clarinet parts.
>>> What does a clarinet player (specifically an amateur clarinet player) do
>> with that?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> Howard
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