Klarinet Archive - Posting 000033.txt from 2011/10

From: Martin Marks <martymarks511@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] tremulo-need help
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:35:40 -0400

I agree. Bouncing the bow makes no sense, Shivering would be more
descriptive accomplished on the clarinet by lightly tonging as fast as
possible.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Roger Hewitt <rogerclarinet@-----.uk> w=
rote:
> I have problems with that answer: violinists would NOT "bounce the bow", =
they would cause the bow to go up and down (looking a bit like shivering) w=
ith the bow in constant contact.=A0 Also, depending on the tempo of the pie=
ce, it would probably be impossible to tongue at the required speed and the=
original violinists would probably be unable to play exact 32nds (=3D demi=
semiquavers), but would just "vibrate" their bow as fast as possible.=A0 Th=
e only option is to tongue as fast as possible or feather-tongue.=A0 Howeve=
r, the arranger is generally at fault for expecting such things from clarin=
ets.=A0 Quite often a conductor might choose to replace these passages with=
long notes, which might lose the effect but result in a more pleasing soun=
d overall: again this would depend on the abilities of the players concerne=
d.
>
>
> It is still called tremolo (or tremolando) on one note.=A0 The only excep=
tion is if the tempo is slow enough that exact demisemis are possible, in w=
hich case there is no problem!=A0 "Slow enough" is likely to be different f=
or violins and clarinets, and indeed for percussionists, brass players and =
so on which all have different maximum speeds for tongueing/stick-work acco=
rding to their skill.
>
> Roger Hewitt
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Martin Marks <martymarks511@-----.com>
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 2:14
> Subject: Re: [kl] tremulo-need help
>
> If they only show one note with the slashes they are not tremolos.
> They are 32nd notes.=A0 I would tongue them.=A0 This is a string
> instrument effect.=A0 You're playing a transcription from a violin part.
> A violinist would bounce the bow.
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Shertzer, Howard (shertzhg)
> <SHERTZHG@-----.edu> wrote:
>> In a band piece called Universal Judgment, a Symphonic Poem by Camille D=
e Nardis,
>> Transcribed by Antonio Cafarella, there are number of half notes that ar=
e written as tremulos (3 slashes in stem) in the
>> Clarinet parts.
>> What does a clarinet player (specifically an amateur clarinet player) do=
with that?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Howard
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