Klarinet Archive - Posting 000017.txt from 2011/10

From: Gregg Patten <patten51@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] dental question
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:38:21 -0400

Thanks. Good to know.
I got head-butted by a horse years ago and split my upper lip. Has not affected my playing, although I can no longer whistle.
Gregg

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On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:30 AM, "Keith Bowen" <keith.bowen@-----.com> wrote:

> Dear David,
>
> I have had extensive dental work done, including a missing molar, and
> believe that whatever you do to a tooth so far away from the mouthpiece will
> have zero perceptual effect, either by you or by a listener. I would choose
> between removal, crowning or implant according to the health criteria
> recommended by your dentist. I did not notice any change when the molar (the
> one nearest the middle) was removed.
>
> In my case I also had an accident as a teenager which killed and loosened my
> two front teeth (upper incisors). I wanted them saved, for clarinet playing
> purposes, though cosmetically they were awful. This went on for about 50
> years through root fillings, root extractions etc, none of which affected
> the playing apart from making it more or less uncomfortable. Finally they
> got too bad and had to come out, along with the two either side whose roots
> had been affected by the bad front upper incisors. The bone was too thin for
> implants, so I ended up with a seven-tooth bridge, anchoring by two teeth on
> one side and one on the other. The dentist was brilliant, took full account
> of my clarinet playing, and made sure that the final teeth were a good fit
> to the mouthpiece. He also straightened the slightly crooked anchoring teeth
> so it all looked better. This was 12 years ago and it is still in perfect
> condition.
>
> My playing was immediately much easier after the fitting. The sound to me
> was a little different, I think because I get less direct bone conduction
> since there is no direct conduction path below my front four teeth. I
> surmise that the sound I hear is a bit more like the sound an audience would
> hear, which is no bad thing. I guess the same would occur with a dental
> plate.
>
> So I do not think that anyone needs to be too concerned about the effect of
> dental work on playing. As always, the important thing is to find a good
> dentist, interest them in the issues of playing and make sure you explain
> the details of playing (how the mouthpiece interacts with the teeth) to
> them.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Renaud [mailto:drjazzca@-----.com]
> Sent: 10 October 2011 03:48
> To: klarinet
> Subject: [kl] dental question
>
> Any comments, information, considerations, experiences, on the
> effects of dental work on ones clarinet playing would be of great
> interest just now. Many of the great players must have had to
> negotiate some challenges later in life in this respect. Their stories
> and struggles overcoming some of these challenges would be of
> interest.
>
> Specifically, the loss of one molar, how will that effect sound Centre.
> Complications from a root canal, or an extraction. success or
> failure of an implant.
>
> Personally, I have a 30 year old molar filling that came out, and
> the tooth cracked.
> The tooth was repaired, refilled, and the fissure was though not to go
> too deep.
> Unfortunately the crack apparently did go deep enough to allow in an
> infection in the root.
> OUCH!!! Tuesday I may need to make a decision to have it removed or
> get a root canal on the tooth.
>
> Of note; clarinet is not a hobby for me. I do not have a full
> time orchestra gig, but as a freelance clarinet major and woodwind
> doubler I do get to play about 200 performances a year, including
> some pops weeks with our national orchestra, pit work, studio, and
> freelance in various styles.
>
> So the challanges and risks as a working musician, and the
> stories behind some of our great players negotiating such challenges
> is of interest at this time.
>
> Have not seen a thread on this, and it could be a good discussion.
> If nothing else comes of it, perhaps it will motive some young players
> to take care of themselves.
>
> Thank You in advance
> Dave Renaud
>
> PS> yes it is VERY painful. Played two gigs on it yesterday.....OUCH.
> decided to send a sub to Tuesdays jazz gig.
> Will see about
> friday,sat,sunday gigs after Tuesdays dental appointment.
> Could get expensive on lost
> income.........
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