Klarinet Archive - Posting 000080.txt from 2011/09
From: Richard D Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Mouthpiece comparison, intonation, and leaks
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:21:52 -0400
Yamaha plastic clarinets can be made to play very well in tune, but not with any brand of barrel that is only 64mm in length. I have found that Yamaha plastics need between 1 and 1.5mm pull when using the original stock 66mm barrel. A second mistake would be to do those very large pulls at the barrel and middle joint without using tuning rings to eliminate the turbulence and added displacement such large pulls introduce.
I have no knowledge of the M13 series Vandoren mounthpieces. I have had very bad tuning experiences with other Vandoren mouthpieces, such as the B45.
While student instruments are usually patterned after professional models, the top of the upper main joint on most brands of student clarinets are usually cut about 2mm short so that beginners and sections of beginning players with underdeveloped embouchures, soft reeds and lack of breath support don't end up being very flat to the rest of the beginning band, which is usually playing very sharp.
I'm guessing that the person with the Yamaha clarinet probably needs to shop harder for a better repair tech. From what you've said, it doesn't seem like the work just done was done by a person who really understands clarinets.
RB
On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Bill Hausmann wrote:
A leak pretty much anywhere will affect the long B. First guess would be
the C key, held down by the B. The crowfoot adjustment is critical, but
very commonly out.
Yamaha makes one of the better student clarinets. Don't be so quick to
blame the instrument just because it is not a pro wood Buffet.
Bill Hausmann
If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Roessel [mailto:gsurosey@-----.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:25 AM
> To: Klarinet List
> Subject: [kl] Mouthpiece comparison, intonation, and leaks
>
> ...I also play-tested her clarinet with my barrel and mouthpiece (Chadash
> 64mm and Vandoren M13 series 13) because her B above the staff would
> only play if you played up to it, as opposed to just starting on that
> note. I'm thinking a leak in the LH 1st finger pad? She just had some
> pad work done, so she's going to take it back to where she got it done.
> That pad looked a little frayed, so that was my first thought. Would a
> leak in the throat A pad do that, too? It looked like it might have
> been leaking, but our break ran out and I didn't have time to actually
> check it. Hopefully whoever fixed her clarinet will pick that stuff up
> (I also gave her the card of the tech I use).
>
> Her clarinet is a plastic Yamaha (not sure which number). I'm aware my
> barrel is short, but I probably had it pulled out 3mm or 4mm (plus 1mm
> or 2mm in the middle) to get the horn in tune. The barrel she has is
> whatever came with her clarinet (I'm assuming longer than mine, but I
> didn't check to see how much). She said she may be interested in just
> getting another clarinet. Assuming her Yamaha is a student one, what
> would be a good one for her to step-up to?
>
> Thanks for any info,
>
> Rachel
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