Klarinet Archive - Posting 000219.txt from 2011/08

From: "Bill Hausmann" <bhausmann1@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Selmer Bass Clarinet Difficulty
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:44:40 -0400

Register key adjustment is the number one issue on bass clarinets. The only
correct positions for the two pads are 1) both closed (and register key not
pressed), 2) lower one open and top closed, and 3) top open and lower
closed. If both are open, even a little, at the same time for any reason
you have a problem. Most any technician can make this adjustment quickly
and cheaply, since they see it ALL the time.

Bill Hausmann

If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Bowen [mailto:keith.bowen@-----.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:35 AM
> To: 'The Klarinet Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [kl] Selmer Bass Clarinet Difficulty
>
> I had one of these once and the clarion E, F and F# are the most
> difficult
> notes. Check to see if you have one or two speaker keys. If two, the
> second
> one higher up the instrument will open automatically when going from D
> to E.
> If you do have this, then it is quite possibly the adjustment of this
> pad
> that is out. The register keys should change over smartly when removing
> R3.
>
> If you do not have this mechanism, then these notes are indeed the
> hardest
> on the instrument. Make sure everything else is sealing properly, rods
> not
> loose as Peter says. Then it is a matter of breath support and voicing,
> that
> is, practice long notes, taking the instrument out of your mouth then
> repeating, trying to get exactly the same mouth/tongue/etc
> configuration as
> before.
>
> If you are in the UK I could check and regulate this for you quite
> cheaply.
> In the USA try Walter Grabner.
>
> Peter, tightening up rods is also a simple operation unless there is
> something else wrong.
>
> Keith Bowen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Gentry [mailto:peter.gentry@-----.uk]
> Sent: 28 August 2011 15:15
> To: 'The Klarinet Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [kl] Selmer Bass Clarinet Difficulty
>
> I don't think it is relevant to your problem but just in case - I had
> experienced similar problems until I noticed that both the LH Eb and Db
> keys
> had excessive movement on their shafts between the pillars. I now make
> sure
> that both keys are pushed down along their shaft as far as possible
> before
> playing. Sometimes on first playing or after picking up the instrument
> the
> keys are moved upwards and at this extreme of movement the pads do not
> properly seal the tone holes. This is not so evident in the lower
> register
> but produces squeaks or refusals to speak in the "soprano" register.
>
> A good technician may be able to re work things to achieve correct
> seating
> without excessive play - but that costs. So for an amateur it is easier
> just
> to check the position before playing. So far they have never moved
> during
> playing - fingers metaphorically crossed.
>
> As you say the more likely issue is with the keys at the top end - do
> you
> dare to make adjustments by careful trial and error? - be sure to be
> methodical and note any changes you make so that you can get back to
> the
> start point.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ronald Coleman [mailto:ron.r.coleman@-----.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:04 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.com
> > Subject: [kl] Selmer Bass Clarinet Difficulty
> >
> > I'm having difficulty with a Selmer Bass clarinet - very hard
> (impossible)
> > to play on most clarion notes (especially the clarion E and F). It
> has no
> > obvious problems (pad leaks or cracks in the wood) - I suspect it's
> an
> > adjustment issue with keys at the top end. I've tried finding a
> Selmer
> > tech
> > rep for help but have come up blank. Anyone here have any contact
> info for
> > getting in touch with someone knowledgeable about a (circa 1960)
> French
> > made
> > Bass... (Ser #T753, model unknown). It's a great sounding instrument
> when
> > it plays right.. It was rebuilt by a shop that (supposedly) knows
> > clarinets
> > well but the key workings on this instrument are different than any
> other
> > I've seen so I'm not surprised that they maybe just didn't know how
> to
> > properly adjust it either. Thanks, Ron
> >
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