Klarinet Archive - Posting 000085.txt from 2011/08

From: "Keith Bowen" <keith.bowen@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Mozart quintet repeat
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:58:03 -0400

Mark,

Subject: [kl] Mozart quintet repeat

Keith wrote:
> > Mark,
> > I deliberately wouldn't answer your direct question, because it would be
> > wrong to do so.

>Hah! Keith, if it's wrong for me to know how you embellish Mozart it's too
late
because I've heard you do it, though not in the 5tet. My question was how
people
did it, I never implied I was going to steal anyone's embellishments or
listen to
any advice whatever from anyone!

You have indeed heard me do it, and heard my advice on doing it though I
don't know if you listened <grin>. But if you hear me on the same piece
again, I hope it will be different! That was my point, sorry to have
misunderstood yours.(The da

>I hope it's not wrong to consider examples,

Not at all, but be discriminating.

>Though perhaps it would be best to erase all the recordings & performances
where the reprise
is an exact repeat from my mind. (Actually, I guess as soon as I hear an
exact repeat
I think "yes, that was beautiful the first time" and then doze off.)

Quite so. That is discrimination.

>I wonder if there's a tendency to embellish less in the quintet than in the
concerto just because it's chamber music and not a concerto? The slow
movement of the quintet seems to me to be more about the clarinet
than the slow movement of the concerto. (I'm betting that the strings,
who are playing diddle-diddle eighth notes more than half the time, think
so.)

Probably.

>The two bars before the reprise in the quintet (49-50) seem to be almost an
eingang,
with V7 chord, rest in the string, but no fermata?

I think so too - a written-out eingang, which he does elsewhere (e.g. GP).

Actually, the Larghetto is not the place where I do the most embellishments,
as it seems to me that Mozart has written out some darn good embellishments
in the composition of that movement. I think the only possibility is the
reprise of the main theme, 51 ff. And possibly in the last few bars. It's
the minuet that cries out for it IMO. With two trios, the minuet is heard at
least four times. (Though the Barenreiter score does say 'da capo senza
repliche', of course we don't know whether Mozart or a later editor put that
in.).

Keith

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