Klarinet Archive - Posting 000063.txt from 2011/07

From: corvo di bassetto <rab@-----.de>
Subj: Re: [kl] albert?
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:20:16 -0400

Well, the best clarinettists use historic or Austrian systems of course=85(=
hope you note my mischievous grin)

The Austrian clarinet is much like M=FChlfeld's Ottensteiner instruments. C=
. B=E4hrmann was heavily involved in its development. Adolph Sax, Heckel, M=
ahillon, Krupe, Mollenhauer i.a. contributed. If it was good enough for Bra=
hms, it is good enough for us.

Actually, I think Oehler is quite overrated. I own several and some of my s=
tudents too. But the slightly simpler German or Albert system works very go=
od and the great Viennese players (Wlach, Boskovsky, Schmidl, Ottensamer=85=
) did/do rather well without Oehler mechanism. To me it spoils the forked B=
b/f, because though it is still fingered as a fork, the middle key is "blin=
d" and operates side keys. The benefit is improved intonation and more even=
sound, but I think it is boring to drill (or drilling to bore?) ever more =
holes in the clarinet. I heard Leister on his full Oehler with worse intona=
tion than Wlach with true forked fingerings. Let alone Neidich on his 10 ke=
y Grenser copy: perfect intonation, ravishing sound in the chromatic scales=
(Weber 5et). Or Tony Pay with hardly any keys at all=85
The Oehler clarinet is good for Richard Strauss like the Boehm is good for =
Debussy. Very limited application potential!

I know that many recent compositions for clarinet appear to be written for =
Boehm system. Yet when Ib Hausmann studies them, they turn out better on th=
e Oehler system. =

Best regards
danyel
(playing on French albert system instruments most of the time=85)

Am 11.07.2011 um 23:41 schrieb Finn Jespersen:

> =

> Hi Bill and List! I don=B4t think that one uses the Oehler system just be=
cause one does not want to use a frensh system! As far as I know the Oehler=
system is required in every german orchestra because it mixes better with =
the other woodwind instruments and because it sounds better than the Boehm =
system (more soft). In other words, they have another idiom! Isn=B4t that o=
k? Remember that some of the best clarinettists in the world plays the Oehl=
er system, Sabine Meyer and Karl Leister! =

> =

>> From: bhausmann1@-----.net
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:41:16 -0500
>> To: klarinet@-----.com
>> Subject: Re: [kl] albert?
>> =

>> Sounds like Oehler system to me, nearly universal in Germany, I suppose =
just because they don't want to use a French system. :-)
>> =

>> Bill Hausmann
>> =

>> If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
>> =

>> Sent from my iPhone
>> =

>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Mikko Raasakka <mikkoraasakka@-----.com> w=
rote:
>> =

>>> Dear colleagues!
>>> =

>>> Does anyone recognize the model of the clarinet shown here?
>>> =

>>> https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=3D2&ik=3D5e87f981d9&view=3Datt&th=3D13=
117c93c250814c&attid=3D0.2&disp=3Dinline&zw
>>> =

>>> for me it looks like some kind of advanced Albert model clarinet with a=
dded
>>> low Eb.
>>> =

>>> The photo is taken in the late 1930's an the man who holds the horn is =
Matti
>>> Rajula (1905-1944), the solo clarinet of the Finnish Radio Orchestra.
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