Klarinet Archive - Posting 000159.txt from 2011/06

From: Richard D Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] difficulties tonguing in clarion register
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:34:57 -0400

Yes, a register key that opens too far will not allow high notes to speak well. Intonation at both extremes of the second register will also go exceedingly sharp with a too open register key.

Another problem might be with the player when tonguing these higher notes. The throat needs to be very open, but the back of the tongue needs to be arched high in the mouth as if saying "tee." The air speed needs to be very fast for proper speaking. I call it the internal voicing of the notes.

A third consideration could be jaw movement when tonguing. If there is any chewing or jaw movement when tonguing, the notes might not initially speak. Check this out by playing in front of a mirror. There should be no visible movement of the mouth or jaw when the tongue moves within the mouth.

RB

On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Martin Marks wrote:

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Finn Jespersen <fj4800@-----.dk> wrote:

>
> Hi! One of the "teachers" on youtube (search for clarinet) has a lesson on
> this topic. He points it out as an instument problem. Many not-professionel
> (student) models gives the problem. He suggests that you bow part of the
> register key. See if yuo can find it! gr. Finn, Denmark
>

Try putting something under the register key that your left thumb presses
so that the register key does not open as much as it does. This sometimes
cures the problem. Is this a Buffet clarinet?

>

> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:29:48 +0100
>> From: jjmcconkey@-----.uk
>> To: klarinet@-----.com
>> Subject: [kl] difficulties tonguing in clarion register
>>
>> Hello - I would be grateful for any suggestions or help anyone has to
> offer on
>> this topic.
>>
>> I have decided to take up the clarinet again after a gap of several
> years. When
>> I stopped playing I wasn't particularly experienced (about 2 years of
>> learning). One of the reasons for giving up was that when I tongued in
> the
>> clarion register, the start of the note was never clean and always seemed
> to be
>> preceeded by a muffled sounding other note. This is most obvious when
> playing
>> scales with each note tongued. I had two different teachers work on this
>> problem with me over a period of months and neither was successful in
> helping me
>> make progress.
>>
>> Of course, they checked my embouchure but couldn't find any problems with
> it and
>> the clarion register notes sound completely fine when slurred. I'm keen
> to find
>> a way to overcome the problem this time as its quite a serious
> limitation. I
>> should possibly also mention that many years ago, I played the oboe and
> did
>> initially find that I had to think about clarinet embouchure quite
> differently
>> compared to the oboe.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> <font face="comic sans ms" color="#8000ff" size="4"><strong>Jane
>> McConkey</strong></font>
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