Klarinet Archive - Posting 000281.txt from 2011/03

From: "Karl Krelove" <kkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Clarinet tremolo
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:02:43 -0400

I don't know if you'll be able to find any combination of reachable trill
keys to produce a D. Bb to C is easy but it uses the highest two trill vents
on the clarinet, so I'm not sure you could get another step out of any keys
that are left. I may try experimenting with it myself just to see if I can
find anything. But a slow tremolo can be done using the two standard
fingerings and just count on everyone in the section being out of phase with
each other enough to make it sound faster. Or you could try to get the
conductor to re-assign the notes in the texture so they're all being
produced but in pairs that are more easily played back and forth. But I
don't know the piece, so I don't know if that's practical.

Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Ratzlaff [mailto:rratzlaff@-----.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:42 PM
To: The Klarinet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet tremolo

It has been a busy day..........

Oops.....yes, I meant third line B-flat to fourth line D.

It comes from a wind symphony work called "Lux Aurumque" by Eric Whitacre.

thanks for your time and input.....

Randy

On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Karl Krelove wrote:

> Bb4 should be one note below the first leger line under the treble staff.
D5
> should be the fourth line of the treble staff. For those who read the
> Clarinet BB, I'm using the reference graphic there to identify the
octaves.
> I'm not sure whether Randy meant those notes or not - Randy, maybe you can
> either confirm these or describe which Bb and D you meant. In any case,
> wherever the numbering system you use starts, Bb4 and D5 must be a tenth
> apart, not a third.
>
> Sorry, I don't know of a smooth way to make a meaningful tremolo between
> those two notes. If it's an orchestral part, I'd look at the other
clarinet
> part or even the flute parts and see if there's a more practical way to
> reassign the notes in the harmony so that tremolo becomes more do-able. I
> asked who the composer is mostly out of amazement that anyone would ask
for
> this interval to be played as a tremolo.
>
> Of course some of the other suggested solutions may well be correct if
Randy
> really meant two other notes than the ones I've identified with Bb4 and
D5.
> Bb5 (throat, third line) to D5 (fourth line), for instance, is more
> approachable even with standard fingerings. Vann Turner's first fingering
> works well for Bb6-D6 (I'm not so fond personally of his second one, but
if
> others can make it work...).
>
> Karl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vann Turner [mailto:vjoet@-----.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:07 AM
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet tremolo
>
> If you are speaking of third line Bb and fourth line D:
>
> Keep your right hand fingers on the tone holes as you play the Bb, and
play
> it as a measured tremulo in triplets or 16ths, depending on the nature of
> the piece.
>
> If you are speaking of Bb above the staff, you have 2 choices:
>
> 1. Play the Bb with the side trill key, and the D as an overblown G (on
the
> staff, that is, no keys depressed at all, not even thumb and register,
> except you can keep the side trill key depressed throughout.
> 2. Play the Bb xoo|xoo, and the D with regular fingering.
>
> Vann Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Ratzlaff" <rratzlaff@-----.com>
> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:25 PM
> Subject: [kl] Clarinet tremolo
>
>
>> Greetings......
>>
>> I have a Bb clarinet part that calls for a tremolo between Bb 4 and D5
on
>
>> the treble clef staff.
>>
>> Are there any alternate fingerings?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
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