Klarinet Archive - Posting 000305.txt from 2011/01

From: Ronald Coleman <ron.coleman@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Tonguing
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:33:36 -0500

The problem with teaching that there is only one proper way to articulate is that it presumes everyones anatomy (mouth/tongue structure) is identical - which of course is untrue. I've come to the conclusion after 50+ years of playing that the best a teacher can do is to introduce the student to all reasonable techniques and then let them experiment. All that really matters is the end product. It is the teachers task then to help the student recognize when the best sound has been achieved.

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> 1. Re: tonguing (Sean Osborn)
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> 3. Re: Karl Leister Weber Quintet (Oliver Seely)
> 4. Re: tonguing (William Foss)
> 5. Re: Karl Leister Weber Quintet (Jenny Connors)
> 6. Re: tonguing (Kathy Williams-DeVries)
> 7. embouchure exercises? (Mary (Kimbasmom))
> 8. Re: embouchure exercises? (Tom Bassett)
> 9. Re: embouchure exercises? (Gary Van Cott)
> 10. Re: embouchure exercises? (Mary (Kimbasmom))
> 11. Re: Karl Leister Weber Quintet (Jayna Cline)
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:15:39 -0800
> From: Sean Osborn <feanor33@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] tonguing
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> At 09:00 AM 1/27/2011, you wrote:
>> I have been student teaching for a week now and my first clarinet
>> challenge has arisen. there is a student who always uses air/throat
>> to articulate. The band director has tried teaching to tongue
>> several times but he always goes back to his old way. Any suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>
> http://www.osbornmusic.com/articulation.html On my website, I have a
> short essay about articulation followed by a MOVIE of the inside of
> my mouth while tonguing. I have found that once most students see
> what should happen, that they better understand it. And others on
> the list have also made great suggestions.
>
> Sean
> www.osbornmusic.com
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:27:57 -0800
> From: Tim Roberts <timr@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] tonguing
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> Caitlin Tevis <musicalserenity@-----.com> wrote:
>> I have been student teaching for a week now and my first clarinet
>> challenge has arisen. there is a student who always uses air/throat to
>> articulate. The band director has tried teaching to tongue several
>> times but he always goes back to his old way. Any suggestions?
>
> One of the shameful secrets that I keep hidden in a closet is that,
> after nearly 40 years of clarinet playing, I still exclusively use
> throat-tonguing. It has certainly served me very well, in that I am
> principal clarinet in our community band and do a fair amount of pit
> orchestra work, but I always feel like I should be embarrassed when we
> get a new member with real clarinet training.
>
> Looking back on it now, I realize that my junior high school band
> director tried several times to tell me how to tongue properly, but at
> that time I just didn't get what he was saying. It didn't make sense.
> Now, it's too late.
>
> --
> Tim Roberts, timr@-----.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:04:45 -0800
> From: Oliver Seely <oseely@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Karl Leister Weber Quintet
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> I'm green with envy.
>
> I wish I could see where the microphone(s) is or are positioned. Note that it is a three-camera setup but the video camera on the right as seen by the audience isn't used in this YouTube version.
>
> I mention this only because someone in our band suggested we do a "food court flash mob" (I guess that's what they're called), but I cautioned not to think that such a performance can be recorded well with hand-held camcorders and internal microphones.
>
> The quintet midi files (sequenced by R. Bakels and contributed to the Classical MIDI Connection in its original form) are on my web page for you folks who are bolder than I.
>
> Oliver
>
>> From: kathleenwilliams76@-----.com
>> To: klarinet@-----.com
>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:21:36 +1000
>> Subject: [kl] Karl Leister Weber Quintet
>>
>> Some angel dug this up on Facebook via YouTube. Just wanted to share. I
>> think it's absolutely marvellous.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1cb6T2w368
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> Kathy Williams-DeVries
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:34:43 -0500
> From: William Foss <billfoss47@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] tonguing
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> Are you about to graduate from Ferman ?
>
> Bill Foss
> U.S. Army Retired
> USC Aiken Woodwind Professor Retired
> Director of Bands, Aiken Prep
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> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Caitlin Tevis
> <musicalserenity@-----.com> wrote:
>> I have been student teaching for a week now and my first clarinet
>> challenge has arisen.? there is a student who always uses air/throat to
>> articulate.? The band director has tried teaching to tongue several
>> times but he always goes back to his old way.? Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:37:01 -0500
> From: Jenny Connors <jenny@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Karl Leister Weber Quintet
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> Wow, this is a gem. Thanks Kathy!
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Kathy Williams-DeVries
> <kathleenwilliams76@-----.com> wrote:
>> Some angel dug this up on Facebook via YouTube. Just wanted to share. I
>> think it's absolutely marvellous.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1cb6T2w368
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kathy Williams-DeVries
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> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:24:22 +1000
> From: "Kathy Williams-DeVries" <kathleenwilliams76@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] tonguing
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> Hi
>
>
>
> Try this link, explained in plain English, with video examples
>
>
>
> http://www.kathywilliams76.com/Chapter_Five.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Kathy Williams-DeVries
>
> BMusPerf (Hons)
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> www.kathywilliams76.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:31:02 -0600
> From: "Mary (Kimbasmom)" <maryasaurus@-----.com>
> Subject: [kl] embouchure exercises?
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> Hi!
> I am wondering if there are exercises or techniques that are recommended
> for helping with proper playing techniques. I feel like my embouchure is
> off... I'm getting air trapped beneath my top lip and I sound too
> "breathy" when I play.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Mary
>
> Mary (Kimbasmom)
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:53:21 -0500
> From: Tom Bassett <bassettt1@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] embouchure exercises?
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> Playing some things "double lip" has always helped me
>
> Tom
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:57:09 -0800
> From: Gary Van Cott <gary@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] embouchure exercises?
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> Larry Guy has written a book entitled: Embouchure Building for Clarinetists.
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> http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinet.htm#C047
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> Gary
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> On 1/27/2011 4:31 PM, Mary (Kimbasmom) wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I am wondering if there are exercises or techniques that are recommended
>> for helping with proper playing techniques. I feel like my embouchure is
>> off... I'm getting air trapped beneath my top lip and I sound too
>> "breathy" when I play.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Mary
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:59:04 -0600
> From: "Mary (Kimbasmom)" <maryasaurus@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] embouchure exercises?
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> Thanks, Gary. That book (and website!) looks like it's a great resource.
>
> Mary (Kimbasmom)
> "'Normal' is a dryer setting." --Elizabeth Moon/The Speed of Dark
> /All Natural Gut Load for feeder insects, plus our own blend of parrot
> cook and serve food. Good stuff at great prices for both reptiles and
> parrots. http://featheredzard.com/
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:19:17 -0600
> From: Jayna Cline <jayna@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Karl Leister Weber Quintet
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> It is great! I have my beginners watch this! Martin Frosts Flight of the Bumble Bee is a great motivator for middle/high school (;
>
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> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:21, "Kathy Williams-DeVries" <kathleenwilliams76@-----.com> wrote:
>
>> Some angel dug this up on Facebook via YouTube. Just wanted to share. I
>> think it's absolutely marvellous.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1cb6T2w368
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kathy Williams-DeVries
>>
>> BMusPerf (Hons)
>>
>> Grad Dip Arts (Shakespeare Studies)
>>
>> ATCL, LTCL
>>
>> 0404946839
>>
>> www.kathywilliams76.com
>>
>>
>>
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