Klarinet Archive - Posting 000221.txt from 2011/01

From: Diego Casadei <casadei.diego@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Penderecki
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:00:43 -0500

Dear all,

please take my following comments as strictly personal. I studied such
piece few years ago, but never had a chance to play it in public, nor to
refine it under the guidance of a professional clarinetist.

It seems to me that the first player takes too much rhythmic liberty,
expecially in the initial section, despite the score clearly marks the
few places in which the tempo changes. There is no indication which
suggests freedom in "Lento sostenuto", and the initial rests are quite
precise and suggest some behaviour which is supposed to sound
"asymmetric" -- sorry for my poor English -- but not ad libitum (I think
that such precise indication of rests is not compatible with rhythmic
freedom). The second player follows the indications more closely, apart
from the "tremoli", which are wrongly executed as 6-tuples. None of
them actually plays correctly the "glissato" to the upper C which, by
the way, is not followed by a long rest to take the breath.

I'm not aware of any typo in the score. I don't have access to the
article mentioned by Peter, hence I would appreciate to know what
accidentals are wrong.

Best regards,
Diego

Richard D Bush wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KItq22Q1H28&feature=related
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX5AGR4M_4M&feature=related
>
> The above might help. The audio on both youtube presentations isn't
> the greatest, but at least you'll get an idea of what notes two
> different players thought ought to be played.
>
> RB
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Karl Krelove wrote:
>
> I just received a copy of Penderecki's Prelude (for Solo Clarinet in
> Bb). I
> have a number of individual questions about notes, but I'll distill them
> into a general one here. Maybe someone who has prepared this serious for
> performance has already worked this out.
>
> There are no bar lines on the piece, so the usual rule about accidentals
> continuing in force until the next bar doesn't apply. I feel fairly
> confident that chromatics in one octave are not meant to affect other
> octaves of the same pitch. I'm not quite so certain about the same notes
> when they occur (with or without intervening notes) at the same
> octave. Is
> every note that's meant to have a chromatic sign marked explicitly?
> There
> are a number of places where naturals are marked where, if this is the
> rule,
> they wouldn't be needed. Are they just mis-used "courtesy" reminders
> that,
> like the ones in more traditionally tonal music, really aren't necessary
> (and sometimes as a result cause more confusion than they prevent)?
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone familiar with this short piece.
>
> Karl
>
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