Klarinet Archive - Posting 000164.txt from 2010/12

From: "Bill Hausmann" <bhausmann1@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Klarinet Digest, Vol 10, Issue 30
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:56:57 -0500

At least with shellac the voids should be filled, so the effect will be
similar to shimming. As for glues on plastic, to each his own. Super glue
is what appears to be used in the factories, but often in insufficient
quantity.

The REAL ring problem is that some cheap clarinets, notably and inexplicably
the Buffet B-12, have PLASTIC tenon and bell rings that are for cosmetic
purposes only. We have seen several cases of the rings breaking, and in one
case a middle tenon socket cracking because of it. Buffet, to their credit,
quickly replaced the joint at no charge. I believe the company is currently
re-thinking that design. We have seen a ringless Leblanc Bliss crack at the
middle tenon socket, too (also replaced under warrantee).

Bill Hausmann

If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nitai Levi =

> Subject: Re: [kl] Klarinet Digest, Vol 10, Issue 30
> =

> >> The trouble with gluing is that it can give a false sense
> >> that the ring is tight even though the wood may have
> >> shrunk away from the ring most of the way around.
> =

> I haven't found this to be a problem when a ring is properly (crucial)
> glued
> with shellac. I found various problems with some other glues.
> =

> >> If shrunk properly the ring will still be round, and will have
> >> some flex anyway, so that should not be a problem. Shims
> >> are only literally paper-thin and will also cause no significant
> >> stress on the wood.
> =

> I consider the thickness of paper and other shim materials significant
> for this
> in the way I mentioned.
> =

> >> However, I fully support using glue (I prefer super glue) for
> >> rings on PLASTIC clarinets, since expansion and shrinkage
> >> of the material is a non-issue.=A0 They should still fit tightly, of
> course.
> =

> For a few reasons, I=A0prefer epoxy=A0for plastic clarinets.
> =

> =

> =

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