Klarinet Archive - Posting 000454.txt from 2010/11

From: johnnieg2@-----.com
Subj: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:14:47 -0500

As a matter of fact, my music professor did indeed deprecate Bernstein's theatricality somewhat. He claimed the boys in the band hate that sort of stuff. I like it OK, though; it's fun and lends some drama to a performance. My own favorite conductor, however, was quite formal and spare in his conducting manner. Another conductor, Andre Previn, is quite minimal in his concert manner.

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From: sarah elbaz <sarah@-----.com>
To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 26, 2010 6:29 am
Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer

I don't remember that anyone complained about the movements of this (great!)
musician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK6gGWMnTZI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJFXqYEYd8&feature=related
or his folower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23zveX7QRpI&feature=related

and most people think that this clarinetist is great (and I agree)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1btdMkXIruQ

When I wrote convincing I meant that I belive that her movements are sincere, I
don't think that it's a show for the audiance. You can't fake musicality.

Sarah

> -------Original Message-------
> From: Fred <vze2bsbs@-----.net>
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
> Sent: 26 Nov '10 14:33
>
> I fail to see how her moves are "musical" or "convincing". What is a
> "musical" move? And does she need to "convince" me that the music is
> great? No- she is DISTRACTING me from the music by her ridiculous
> gyrations. She could play as well tied to a chair. And then the
> opus itself would be musical and convincing in its own right. The
> music doesn't need to be sold by gimmicky theatrics. I want to enjoy
> the music- not a snake dancer.
>
> Toscanini used to be very animated when he rehearsed his orchestras,
> to get his points across to them. But at show time, his conducting
> was very minimal so that the audience would not be distracted. And it
worked.
>
> And just what is sexist about voicing opinions in this thread- I have
> already posted my dislike of a MALE clarinetist who felt that modern
> dance was a necessary embellishment to his performance. I don't see
> the point in validating your opinion by playing the sexist card.
>
> Perhaps it is because of the extremely high level the performance bar
> is set at in today's world, those at the top feel that they must
> convince the observer of how good they are by SHOWING us the efforts
> they are making by putting the emotions that they put into the music
> on the outside for us to see. I find it distracting, unnecessary,
> and in some cases (Ms. Meyer's) even bizarre.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> At 04:48 AM 11/26/2010, you wrote:
> >Thank you Arthur,
> >Sabine Meyer moves , and her movements are musical and convincing.
> >She is also a very lucky women , not only because of her talent and
> >success- but also because
> >she gets wonderful support from her husband Reiner Wehle and her
> >brother Wolfgang Meyer. Thank to both of them
> >she can survive the unbelivable sexism around her.
> >Sarah
> >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > > From: Arthur Acheson <arthur.acheson@-----.com>
> > > To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
> > > Sent: 26 Nov '10 08:07
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 Nov 2010, at 10:30, Taylor, Noel wrote:
> > >
> > > Music has rhythm, the body feels it - the body wants to move. Dance
> > > is deep in us - and after all, a lot of classical music, including
> > > Mozart, is based on the dances of the period. What the heck is the
> > > problem about moving? It's natural.
> > >
> > > Question. How natural, as opposed to learned, is the type of movement
> > > in the Sabine Meyer video?
> > > I ask this as I have worked with blind musicians and observed blind
> > > musicians such as Roland Kirk, Ray Charles, etc. and their movements
> > > are of a totally different kind. Could this be because their
> > > movements are 'natural' as opposed to affectations?
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