Klarinet Archive - Posting 000430.txt from 2010/11

From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?sarah=20elbaz?=" <sarah@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] =?iso-8859-1?q?Sabine_Meyer?=
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:28:58 -0500

I don't remember that anyone complained about the movements of this (great!=
) musician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTK6gGWMnTZI&feature=3Drelated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DogJFXqYEYd8&feature=3Drelated
or his folower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D23zveX7QRpI&feature=3Drelated

and most people think that this clarinetist is great (and I agree)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1btdMkXIruQ

When I wrote convincing I meant that I belive that her movements are sincer=
e, I don't think that it's a show for the audiance. You can't fake musical=
ity.

Sarah

> -------Original Message-------
> From: Fred <vze2bsbs@-----.net>
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
> Sent: 26 Nov '10 14:33
> =

> I fail to see how her moves are "musical" or "convincing".=A0=A0What is a
> "musical" move?=A0=A0And does she need to "convince" me that the music is
> great?=A0=A0No- she is DISTRACTING me from the music by her ridiculous
> gyrations.=A0=A0 She could play as well tied to a chair.=A0=A0And then t=
he
> opus itself would be musical and convincing in its own right.=A0=A0The
> music doesn't need to be sold by gimmicky theatrics.=A0=A0I want to enjoy
> the music- not a snake dancer.
> =

> Toscanini used to be very animated when he rehearsed his orchestras,
> to get his points across to them.=A0=A0But at show time, his conducting
> was very minimal so that the audience would not be distracted.=A0=A0And =
it worked.
> =

> And just what is sexist about voicing opinions in this thread- I have
> already posted my dislike of a MALE clarinetist who felt that modern
> dance was a necessary embellishment to his performance.=A0=A0 I don't see
> the point in validating your opinion by playing the sexist card.
> =

> Perhaps it is because of the extremely high level the performance bar
> is set at in today's world, those at the top feel that they must
> convince the observer of how good they are by SHOWING us the efforts
> they are making by putting the emotions that they put into the music
> on the outside for us to see.=A0=A0I find it distracting, unnecessary,
> and in some cases (Ms. Meyer's) even bizarre.
> =

> Fred
> =

> =

> =

> At 04:48 AM 11/26/2010, you wrote:
> >Thank you Arthur,
> >Sabine Meyer moves , and her movements are musical and convincing.
> >She is also a very lucky women , not only because of her talent and
> >success- but also because
> >she gets wonderful support from her husband Reiner Wehle and her
> >brother Wolfgang Meyer. Thank to both of them
> >she can survive the unbelivable sexism around her.
> >Sarah
> >
> > >=A0=A0-------Original Message-------
> > >=A0=A0From: Arthur Acheson <arthur.acheson@-----.com>
> > >=A0=A0To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
> > >=A0=A0Subject: Re: [kl] Sabine Meyer
> > >=A0=A0Sent: 26 Nov '10 08:07
> > >
> > >
> > >=A0=A0On 25 Nov 2010, at 10:30, Taylor, Noel wrote:
> > >
> > >=A0=A0Music has rhythm, the body feels it - the body wants to move. D=
ance
> > >=A0=A0is deep in us - and after all, a lot of classical music, includ=
ing
> > >=A0=A0Mozart, is based on the dances of the period. What the heck is =
the
> > >=A0=A0problem about moving? It's natural.
> > >
> > >=A0=A0Question. How natural, as opposed to learned, is the type of mo=
vement
> > >=A0=A0in the Sabine Meyer video?
> > >=A0=A0I ask this as I have worked with blind musicians and observed b=
lind
> > >=A0=A0musicians such as Roland Kirk, Ray Charles, etc. and their move=
ments
> > >=A0=A0are of a totally different kind. Could this be because their
> > >=A0=A0movements are 'natural' as opposed to affectations?
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