Klarinet Archive - Posting 000258.txt from 2010/11

From: "Christophe ASTIER" <christophe.astier@-----.fr>
Subj: Re: [kl] Identify the instrument
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:55:58 -0500

Hi John, and all friends,

May be it just shows that even the Berliner Phils are able to become more
flexible than they used to be...

And by the way, we also had some evidence of it when, after fighting for a
long time, they eventually
accepted that women could join the orchestra... For that, we have to give
credit to Herbert von, and to
Sabine Meyer. Does it mean that the clarinet has some specific virtue of
bringing civilisation into
the most hostile territories ? Why not, after all....

To be complete, I am not at all trying to compare the Boehm and German
system, in terms of "quality",
would it be because I have never tried the German system (I would love to,
but I cannot really afford
buying a fine German system clarinet to compare with my nice Buffet...).

Best regards,
Christophe.

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From: "John Brophy" <johnbrophy0@-----.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:57 PM
To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Identify the instrument

> OK! you're far more up to date than I am, but I do know of one Irish
> player
> who declined to change system when informed. We've an old concert band
> (like
> 100 years here, and all the over 70s played albert system in their youth.
> They did change to Boehm, but German systems were unknown here, or else
> they
> would have opted for them.
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Christophe ASTIER <
> christophe.astier@-----.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Not sure I fully agree with you where you say "but the Berlin Phil won't
>> allow a Boehm system"
>>
>> May be I am wrong, but I think the french clarinetist Philippe Cuper has
>> played a couple of month
>> with the Berlin Phil, and sure he will not have switched from his
>> Buffet's
>> Boehm system to the german
>> system just for that...
>>
>> Chistophe.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "John Brophy" <johnbrophy0@-----.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:29 PM
>> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Identify the instrument
>>
>> >
>> > The keywork looks far more like an oboe, but the bore doesn't look
>> conical
>> > enough. Maybe it's a German system clarinet? They're rare in Britain
>> > and
>> > Ireland, but the Berlin Phil won't allow a Boehm system. Similarly,
>> > there
>> > are famed bassoon makers like Puchner of Nauheim who also make
>> > clarinets,
>> > German system only. If you're in the US you mayn't realise the amount
>> > of
>> > national xenophobia about such matters. I know of German bandmasters
>> > who
>> > refused to use saxophones, because they were a Belgian invention.
>> > (Didn;t
>> > seem to matter that saxhorns were from the same source.). So if you
>> search
>> > for a German (Oehler??) system it may be the answer.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Fred <vze2bsbs@-----.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can anyone tell me what the horn in the picture at the bottom of this
>> >> page
>> >> is?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.europeanclarinetassociation.org/index.php?id=28
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't look like any form of a clarinet to me.
>> >>
>> >> Fred
>> >>
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